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ultrabasurero
Jun 14, 2011, 01:42 pm

Coming from Marvel in September...

FF: 50 FANTASTIC YEARS #1
Written by VARIOUS
Select Character Artwork by GUS VAZQUEZ
Cover by PATRICK SCHERBERGER

Celebrating 50 years of Marvel’s First Family This issue spotlights a Future Foundation bio, an update on the Fantastic Four and an entry on the FF’s various headquarters! Plus: FF Allies (Artie Maddicks! Alex Power! Roberta the robot receptionist!), FF enemies (Dreadface! Dr. Sun! Mister Miracle!), extraterrestrials (Shalla Bal! Ovoids! De’Lila the Skrull!) and a sampling of the odd beings the FF has encountered (Karisma! Chupacabra! Cauldron!). Featuring original GUS VAZQUEZ art for the majority of profiles!

64 PGS./Handbook/Rated T+ …$4.99

Can't wait!

PaxHouse
Jun 14, 2011, 02:08 pm

Fi-nal-ly....!! :dance:

Looks like the FF Team will be covered in style...!! [img]file:///C:\Users\Andy\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image001.png[/img][img]file:///C:\Users\Andy\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image002.png[/img]

Eduardo M.
Jun 14, 2011, 03:50 pm

Nice list. I can see a couple of names on my wish list have been taken care of.

Roger Ott
Jun 14, 2011, 04:34 pm

Eduardo V. wrote:

Nice list. I can see a couple of names on my wish list have been taken care of.

Possibly more than a couple!

Andy E. Nystrom
Jun 14, 2011, 10:49 pm

Just going by the solicits I see one entry from my wish list (Roberta) and one indirectly (if De'Lila's F4 are in the book, they're not in the solicits, but De'Lila herself is, which would probably cover much of the same ground). That might explain why one writer counted nine and and other counted eight on the wish list. And while not on the wish list, I have a soft spot for the ill-fated Miracle Man the only F4 villain in the first five issues to not really make it big, probably due to his initial reliance on trickery (and probably overlap with Mysterio). I can see there being a lot of half pagers in this book, due to their share of interesting lesser villains.

Sidney Osinga
Jun 15, 2011, 12:27 am

Mister Miracle? Are you covering DC characters now?

Seriously, I assume that it's Miracle Man, and that you are confirming that the Mister Miracle that was mentioned in the first Cage series is the same character.

Madison Carter
Jun 16, 2011, 04:20 am

Sidney Osinga wrote:

Mister Miracle? Are you covering DC characters now?

Seriously, I assume that it's Miracle Man, and that you are confirming that the Mister Miracle that was mentioned in the first Cage series is the same character.

No, not quite. Yes, it was meant to say "Miracle Man" and was an error. The Cage character Mr. Miracle is not the same character, as evidenced by Miracle Man's resurrection in the Punisher line afterward. It was just a goof up and we didn't catch it until too late.

Sidney Osinga
Jun 16, 2011, 05:13 am

Madison Carter wrote:

No, not quite. Yes, it was meant to say "Miracle Man" and was an error. The Cage character Mr. Miracle is not the same character, as evidenced by Miracle Man's resurrection in the Punisher line afterward. It was just a goof up and we didn't catch it until too late.

That makes sense. And i should have remembered that he was resurrected, I read that story-line.

Sidney Osinga
Jun 17, 2011, 11:55 pm

Hopefully, Karnak and Triton will finally get entries.

Phoenixx9
Jun 18, 2011, 02:19 pm

Yay!

It's been a while since we had an FF book.

This will certainly knock a few more off my wish list. [img]file:///C:\Users\Andy\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image003.gif[/img]

Eduardo M.
Jul 7, 2011, 07:22 pm

<a href="http://www.comixfan.net/images/previews/marvel/2011sep/FFHB2011_col.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.comixfan.net/images/previews/marvel/2011sep/FFHB2011_colt.jpg" hspace=10 align=left alt="FF: 50 Fantastic Years #1 preview"></a>FF: 50 FANTASTIC YEARS #1<br />

is that a new cover??

captainswift
Jul 7, 2011, 07:30 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

is that a new cover??

No, not quite. One (or more) of the online sources put the alternate cover for September's issue of FF beside the solicits for FF: 50 Fantastic Years by mistake. It's correct in the print edition of Previews, and here.

Eduardo M.
Jul 7, 2011, 09:09 pm

captainswift wrote:

No, not quite. One (or more) of the online sources put the alternate cover for September's issue of FF beside the solicits for FF: 50 Fantastic Years by mistake. It's correct in the print edition of Previews, and here.

ah. I c. In any case, I like it.

sucellos11
Aug 16, 2011, 06:06 pm

Other characters and various entries i'd like to see in this handbook:

Aron the Rogue Watcher
Boris
Brain Parasites
Caledonia
Captain Barracuda
Cat People
Crucible
Darkoth
Doom 2099
Fantastic Four Headquarters & Vehicles
Fasaud
Gormuu
Grottu
Headmen
Iconoclast
Jihad
Karnak
Khlog
Lancer
Lumpkin, Billie
Monster From the Lost Lagoon
Occulus
Shadow Hunters
Stygorr
Tomazooma
Triton
Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation
Yancy Street Gang

Madison Carter
Aug 16, 2011, 06:48 pm

sucellos11 wrote:

Other characters and various entries i'd like to see in this handbook:

Aron the Rogue Watcher
Boris
Brain Parasites
Caledonia
Captain Barracuda
Cat People
Crucible
Darkoth
Doom 2099
Fantastic Four Headquarters & Vehicles
Fasaud
Gormuu
Grottu
Headmen
Iconoclast
Jihad
Karnak
Khlog
Lancer
Lumpkin, Billie
Monster From the Lost Lagoon
Occulus
Shadow Hunters
Stygorr
Tomazooma
Triton
Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation
Yancy Street Gang

Gormuu was profiled in HC14. Could have sworn we did a non-files Khlog profile at some point too.

The others...could be one, could be several, but will say this book should make you happy to *some* degree.

Rayeye
Aug 17, 2011, 05:09 pm

Madison Carter wrote:

Gormuu was profiled in HC14. Could have sworn we did a non-files Khlog profile at some point too.

True, Khlog had a profile in Marvel Monsters: From the Files of Ulysses Bloodstone and the Monster Hunters.

bigvis497
Aug 17, 2011, 05:24 pm

Rayeye wrote:

True, Khlog had a profile in Marvel Monsters: From the Files of Ulysses Bloodstone and the Monster Hunters.

Khlog has had a files-profile, but never had a handbook profile. Madison, you might be thinking of the Fantastic Four Encyclopedia, that's the closest he's had to a regular profile.

sucellos11
Aug 18, 2011, 06:57 am

Madison Carter wrote:

Gormuu was profiled in HC14. Could have sworn we did a non-files Khlog profile at some point too.

The others...could be one, could be several, but will say this book should make you happy to *some* degree.

Forgot about good ol' Gormuu. But I think Khlog is definitely in need of a juicy Handbook profile. Thrilled to know some entry candidates I posted will be included! Thank you! Crossing fingers specially for Darkoth, Doom 2099, Fantastic Four Headquarters & Vehicles and Karnak!

Rayeye
Aug 21, 2011, 05:40 pm

I'd also like to see a profile of:

Caledonia
Ebon Seeker and Firefrost
Fantastic Four 2099
Future Foundation
Hellscout
the Ruined
Twisted Sisters
Universal Inhumans
Valeria Richards (Exiles/Earth-1720)
Wyatt Wingfoot

slevin87
Aug 21, 2011, 07:17 pm

Rayeye wrote:

Wyatt Wingfoot

He received an entry in the first issue of last year's A-Z update mini.

William Keogh
Sep 27, 2011, 02:25 pm

And this one's released tomorrow; reserve your copies while you can!

Stuart V
Sep 27, 2011, 02:30 pm

Just thought to count it - 45 new main images for entries from Gus for this one, probably a record. Some of those are group shots.

Eduardo M.
Sep 27, 2011, 03:07 pm

Stuart V wrote:

Just thought to count it - 45 new main images for entries from Gus for this one, probably a record. Some of those are group shots.

Damm. I hope the poor guy's hands didn't fall off

Phoenixx9
Sep 27, 2011, 06:10 pm

William Keogh wrote:

And this one's released tomorrow; reserve your copies while you can!

Good point, William.

I am excited to get this book!

William Keogh
Sep 27, 2011, 07:12 pm

I stopped by my LCS today and asked for one to be held. They'd ordered three total, and two of them were already spoken for.

Phoenixx9
Sep 28, 2011, 05:31 am

I really like the cover on this FF HB.

Nice tribute to the FF's 50th year!

Rayeye
Sep 28, 2011, 12:49 pm

Can't wait to see who's in it! Anyone who can post a list of the profiles? That would be awesome!

Stuart V
Sep 28, 2011, 01:13 pm

Andro (1 page)
Atlantis Rising (event) (1 page)
Axi-Tun (race) (3 pages)
Byrrah (2 pages)
Captain Barracuda (2 pages)
Chupacabras (race) (1 page)
Comte de Sante Germain (1 page)
Dark Raider (1 page)
Darkoth (2 pages)
Dr. Sun (2 pages)
Droom (1 page)
Ebon Seeker (1 page)
Fantastic Force (Nu-Earth) (2 pages)
Fantastic Four update (1 page)
FF HQs & Vehicles (5 pages)
FF 2099 (1 page)
Future Foundation (1 page)
Artie Maddicks (2 pages)
Malice (1 page)
Miracle Man (2 pages)
Evelyn Necker (2 pages)
Ovoids (race) (1 page)
Persephone (goddess) (1 page)
Phaeder (1 page)
Alex Power (3 pages)
Powerhouse (Xandarian) (1 page)
Queen Divine Justice (1 page)
Roberta (1 page)
Shalla Bal (2 pages)
Shellshock (1 page)
Skybreaker (2 pages)
Tempus (1 page)
Troxx (race) (1 page)
Tyannans (race) (1 page)
Ultima (1 page)
Vangaard (1 page)
Wildstreak (1 page)
Hedy Wolfe (1 page)
Yucoya-Tzin (1 page)
and half pagers all for:
Bonham
Caledonia
Cauldron
Cole
Crusader (Uranian)
De'lila
Dreadface
Futurist
Gh'runjians
Hunger (demon)
Karisma
Kthara
Samurai Destroyer
Skyshark
Stygorr the Nightlord
Tomazooma (robot)

Sidney Osinga
Sep 28, 2011, 01:53 pm

I think it's disappointing that Karnak and Triton of the Inhumans weren't covered. They are fairly major characters.

Also, if anyone is interested, the inked works can be found on Gus Vazquez' DeviantArt page http://uncle-gus.deviantart.com/

Rayeye
Sep 28, 2011, 03:37 pm

Thanks for the list, Stuart!
Again a nice list! Personally I'm glad to see Artie Maddicks, Caladonia, Fantastic Four 2099 are in it.

Eduardo M.
Sep 28, 2011, 03:39 pm

Stuart V wrote:

Andro (1 page)
Atlantis Rising (event) (1 page)
Axi-Tun (race) (3 pages)
Byrrah (2 pages)
Captain Barracuda (2 pages)
Chupacabras (race) (1 page)
Comte de Sante Germain (1 page)
Dark Raider (1 page)
Darkoth (2 pages)
Dr. Sun (2 pages)
Droom (1 page)
Ebon Seeker (1 page)
Fantastic Force (Nu-Earth) (2 pages)
Fantastic Four update (1 page)
FF HQs & Vehicles (5 pages)
FF 2099 (1 page)
Future Foundation (1 page)
Artie Maddicks (2 pages)
Malice (1 page)
Miracle Man (2 pages)
Evelyn Necker (2 pages)
Ovoids (race) (1 page)
Persephone (goddess) (1 page)
Phaeder (1 page)
Alex Power (3 pages)
Powerhouse (Xandarian) (1 page)
Queen Divine Justice (1 page)
Roberta (1 page)
Shalla Bal (2 pages)
Shellshock (1 page)
Skybreaker (2 pages)
Tempus (1 page)
Troxx (race) (1 page)
Tyannans (race) (1 page)
Ultima (1 page)
Vangaard (1 page)
Wildstreak (1 page)
Hedy Wolfe (1 page)
Yucoya-Tzin (1 page)
and half pagers all for:
Bonham
Caledonia
Cauldron
Cole
Crusader (Uranian)
De'lila
Dreadface
Futurist
Gh'runjians
Hunger (demon)
Karisma
Kthara
Samurai Destroyer
Skyshark
Stygorr the Nightlord
Tomazooma (robot)

Nice list. Especially Malice :mwahaha:

bigvis497
Sep 28, 2011, 04:17 pm

Haven't picked this up yet, but I had a question. I'm not a Fantastic Four expert by any means, but is Malice the Sue Storm Malice? Was that a different character then Sue? I always thought that was still Sue, just being controlled by the Psycho-Man. Which would be different then Jean/Phoenix, which were seperate entities.

Eduardo M.
Sep 28, 2011, 04:31 pm

bigvis497 wrote:

Haven't picked this up yet, but I had a question. I'm not a Fantastic Four expert by any means, but is Malice the Sue Storm Malice? Was that a different character then Sue? I always thought that was still Sue, just being controlled by the Psycho-Man. Which would be different then Jean/Phoenix, which were seperate entities.

The Malice covered here is mainly an Infinity War doppleganger of Sue Storm. The entry also briefly mentions Sue's time as Malice.

bigvis497
Sep 28, 2011, 04:50 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

The Malice covered here is mainly an Infinity War doppleganger of Sue Storm. The entry also briefly mentions Sue's time as Malice.

Ahh, Infinity War. Forgot all about that. Thanks!

Eduardo M.
Sep 28, 2011, 05:31 pm

bigvis497 wrote:

Ahh, Infinity War. Forgot all about that. Thanks!

Always glad to help

Phoenixx9
Sep 28, 2011, 06:33 pm

Great List!

That's at least a good dozen + hacked off my Master Wish List!

PaxHouse
Sep 28, 2011, 06:36 pm

William Keogh wrote:

I stopped by my LCS today and asked for one to be held. They'd ordered three total, and two of them were already spoken for.

The FF Handbook was already gone from my LCS, so I'm hoping that they'll get more copies soon.

Andy E. Nystrom
Sep 28, 2011, 06:53 pm

PaxHouse wrote:

The FF Handbook was already gone from my LCS, so I'm hoping that they'll get more copies soon.

I'm always surprised when dealers don't maintain a pull list. It's usually a guaranteed sale barring unexpected hardships.

William Keogh
Sep 28, 2011, 07:42 pm

My shop does reorder them when asked for, but because they don't sell a lot of handbooks, they tend to order a small amount straight off.

Eduardo M.
Sep 28, 2011, 08:41 pm

this is why i always add specific handbooks to my pull list the moment the monthly solicts come in.

Andy E. Nystrom
Sep 28, 2011, 09:13 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

this is why i always add specific handbooks to my pull list the moment the monthly solicts come in.

I give my dealer specific titles as well. I used to just say "Handbooks" but most of the current ones aren't indicated as such in the titles, so I've learned to be very specific except for stuff that's obvious like the Index books

William Keogh
Oct 3, 2011, 03:41 pm

Finished it, and really enjoyed it! My compliments to everyone involved, and the profiles for the Four, the FF, the headquarters and gear, Atlantis Rising, Dark Raider, Caledonia, Alex Power, Cole, Persephone, Droom, and Roberta were particularly well appreciated!

ultrabasurero
Oct 8, 2011, 03:04 pm

Is there an error with the heights of Alex Power and Artie Maddicks? Alex is listed at 5' 5" and Artie is listed as 5' 6". In all the FF stuff Alex is drawn as an adult and Artie is still pretty much shown way shorter than him. What gives? I would think that Artie would be 4' 6" instead.

As always, round of applause to all the handbook people for another fine issue.

Stuart V
Oct 9, 2011, 05:49 am

Artie should be 5'2".

PaxHouse
Oct 10, 2011, 10:55 am

ultrabasurero wrote:

Is there an error with the heights of Alex Power and Artie Maddicks? Alex is listed at 5' 5" and Artie is listed as 5' 6". In all the FF stuff Alex is drawn as an adult and Artie is still pretty much shown way shorter than him. What gives? I would think that Artie would be 4' 6" instead.

I'm glad that somebody else mention this about the error of Alex's (and Artie's) height; for I recall that he's a few inches taller than Julie (& she's mentioned to be @ 5' 4"), so I'm presuming that he's about 5' 7" to 5' 8".

Also also to see that Calendia (or however you pronounced her name) gets a brief mention within this FF Handbook,

Stuart V
Oct 10, 2011, 11:06 am

PaxHouse wrote:

I'm glad that somebody else mention this about the error of Alex's (and Artie's) height; for I recall that he's a few inches taller than Julie (& she's mentioned to be @ 5' 4"), so I'm presuming that he's about 5' 7" to 5' 8".

Also also to see that Calendia (or however you pronounced her name) gets a brief mention within this FF Handbook,

Alex is 5'5" - he's marginally shorter than Invisible Woman, and only a little taller than his sister Julie. Guess she caught him up as she matured.

And it's Caledonia, the old name for Scotland.

Rayeye
Nov 4, 2011, 04:59 pm

According to he handbook the main image of Alex Power is done by Gus Vasquez, but I think it's actually done by Patrick Scherberger, at least it looks like his style.

Django
Nov 7, 2011, 04:05 pm

If the Alex Power you're referring to is professor Power, it was me.

Rayeye
Nov 7, 2011, 04:13 pm

Django wrote:

If the Alex Power you're referring to is professor Power, it was me.

Hello Mr. Vasquez, I really love your art in this handbook as well in all the other handbooks, they are great!
I am not referring to Professor Power but the Power Pack kid called Alex Power (aka Zero-G). He is wearing a black & white Tetris-like costume.

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