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2/13/2020 7:15 pm  #1


The OHOTMU Trivia Game

Here's a hopefully fun idea for a new thread. People can post and/or reply to trivia questions about the Handbooks. Almost anything allowed as long as it sticks to the official material. No DK stuff for example. Try to answer without looking up the info.

1. Which Handbook title's indicia had erroneous info? Not just different form the cover (that's pretty common) but actually wrong.
2. Which was the first alien race profiled in first series #1?
3. What article was in the inside back cover of first series #13?
4. What were the first and last profiles in Deluxe Edition #1? So essentially the profiles range.
5. What was unique about some of the art in the Deluxe Edition's Books of the Dead?
6. How many issues did the Master Edition run?
7. In one 2004 handbook two teams shared an entry despite only being related by theme. Which two teams and which handbook were they in?
8.Which animal type got its own entry in Hardcover #14, a brand new listing?
9. How many pages did Henry Peter Gyrich get in his hardcover profile?
10. Which handbook was the first to show art from Spidey Super Stories?
11. In which handbook can you find a profile for Richard Rory?
12. Which two characters from Crazy Magazine were profiled in the Secret Wars handbook?
13. What was the Whizzer (of Squadron Supreme)'s real name originally revealed to be in the first handbook series?
14. Which villain team first got a full profile in the paperbacks connected to the Deluxe Edition?
15. Update '89 had a single Deceased listing. Who was it for?


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2/15/2020 8:21 pm  #2


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I'll reveal the answers on the 20th if no one's gottne them by then. Okay to guess at some of them even if you don't know all of them.


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2/16/2020 7:40 am  #3


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

2. Which was the first alien race profiled in first series #1?

Aakon?

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3. What article was in the inside back cover of first series #13?

Death in the Marvel Universe, iirc.

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5. What was unique about some of the art in the Deluxe Edition's Books of the Dead?

Some of Scourge's victims had original art depicting their individual deaths.

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6. How many issues did the Master Edition run?

36 iirc

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7. In one 2004 handbook two teams shared an entry despite only being related by theme. Which two teams and which handbook were they in?

Battle-Axis and Super-Axis, who shared the theme of working for the Nazis, and appeared in Golden Age.

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12. Which two characters from Crazy Magazine were profiled in the Secret Wars handbook?

Obnoxio and Teen Hulk.

 

 

2/16/2020 8:04 am  #4


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Most of your answers are correct. Greedy Aakon, choosing a double A name so they could be first (narrowly edging out A'askvarii). . The Death in the Marvel Universe article mostly forcssed on the abstract being but also looked at dying, astral forms, and the like. Not surprising you got some of the modern handbook questions correct.

#5 is very close but not quite there.


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2/16/2020 10:50 am  #5


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Most of your answers are correct. Greedy Aakon, choosing a double A name so they could be first (narrowly edging out A'askvarii).

Sometimes being first in the alphabet isn't a good thing. Like the time that the insane Chief Judge Cal of Mega-City One decided to execute the entire populace in alphabetical order...


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The Death in the Marvel Universe article mostly focused on the abstract being but also looked at dying, astral forms, and the like. Not surprising you got some of the modern handbook questions correct.

I wrote some of the entries in question, and while I didn't write the combined Battle/Super Axis entry, it was me (if my memory isn't cheating) who handled splitting them into separate entries come the hardcovers.

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#5 is very close but not quite there.

Not just the Scourge victims, but anyone without a clearly depicted death from the comics got new art depicting it?

A few trivia challenges of my own:
(1) Which supporting cast member's surname, revealed in the handbooks, is a nod to a famous SF series?
(2) Two characters debuted in different issues of a comic a number of issues apart; both shared the same surname, and the writer later admitted they were intended to be siblings. However this wasn't confirmed in print until they received handbook entries - which two characters?
 

 

2/16/2020 11:41 am  #6


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Not just the Scourge victims, but anyone without a clearly depicted death from the comics got new art depicting it?
 

Yes, that was it. Quite a few of the new drawings were in fact Scourge victims, but that was due to clarity and not them being Scourge victims. Titania was in the shower, thus naked, so it's not surprising she wasn't depicted at first with the Comics Code. Blue Streak was probably a matter of zooming out at the end of the story, so we saw the truck he was in instead with sound effect. Likely with the Bar with No Name massacre it was a matter of showing minimal panels so show there was no time to react. But anyone whose death needed clarity got new art. Viper (Stryke/Dixon) for example, probably because his overcoat covered most of his costume in the original panel.

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2/19/2020 2:33 pm  #7


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

8.Which animal type got its own entry in Hardcover #14, a brand new listing?
10. Which handbook was the first to show art from Spidey Super Stories?
11. In which handbook can you find a profile for Richard Rory?
13. What was the Whizzer (of Squadron Supreme)'s real name originally revealed to be in the first handbook series?
14. Which villain team first got a full profile in the paperbacks connected to the Deluxe Edition?

8. Cockroaches?
10. Spiderverse handbook?
11. Defenders: Strange Heroes?
13. Stanley Stewart?
14. Headmen?

 

2/20/2020 5:53 am  #8


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zuckyd1 wrote:

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

8.Which animal type got its own entry in Hardcover #14, a brand new listing?
10. Which handbook was the first to show art from Spidey Super Stories?
11. In which handbook can you find a profile for Richard Rory?
13. What was the Whizzer (of Squadron Supreme)'s real name originally revealed to be in the first handbook series?
14. Which villain team first got a full profile in the paperbacks connected to the Deluxe Edition?

8. Cockroaches?
10. Spiderverse handbook?
11. Defenders: Strange Heroes?
13. Stanley Stewart?
14. Headmen?

8 and 11 are correct. 14 is correct after a fashion: It's the answer I was looking for but I forgot that they had also also had an entry on the original series, so i was goikng to rewrite the question as "Which team had an entry in the first series, skipped the Deluxe Edition, but then had an entry in the Delxue trades, complete with quarter page sub-entries?" But you got the right answer anyway.

10. No, it was before that.
13. No, that's the name that eventually stuck (in the Squadron Supeme series) but not the name originally given to him.

I'll reveal any remaining answers this evening.


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2/20/2020 7:54 pm  #9


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The answers to the questions that no one got: 

1. Which Handbook title's indicia had erroneous info? Not just different form the cover (that's pretty common) but actually wrong.
Master Edition. It was listed as volume 3 but that had already been given to Update '89.

4. What were the first and last profiles in Deluxe Edition #1? So essentially the profiles range.
Abomination to Batroc's Brigade

9. How many pages did Henry Peter Gyrich get in his hardcover profile?
​1

10. Which handbook was the first to show art from Spidey Super Stories?
A-Z softcover #2. The Corps update showed the Captain Britain from that world.

13. What was the Whizzer (of Squadron Supreme)'s real name originally revealed to be in the first handbook series?
Hiram Arnold. I kind of like that name and hope it eventually gets used again.

15. Update '89 had a single Deceased listing. Who was it for?
One of Marvel's most mistreated characters: Madelyne Pryor


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2/20/2020 9:13 pm  #10


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New questions (sorry, stumped by teh two questions from Loki):
1. What is wrong with the Enforcer entry in the first series?
2. Which character in the original series had both a full (not Appendix) entry in the first 12 issues and then again in the 2-issue Book of the Dead and the Inactive?
3. Who was the first Inactive character from the first series to appear under their real name in the Deluxe edition?
4. How many pages total was the Alien Races section in the Deluxe Edition?
5. What was the most notable art change in Update '89 from previous versions?
6. What was the third handbook devoted to the Ultimate universe called?
7. What was the only "Files" type book to have the bulk of its entries converted to Handbook profiles for the Hardcovers?
8. Who received a new profile in the Hardcovers to fill a half page space in the latter K?
9. Due to a printing error, which Handbook had some copies pretty correctly, some copies printed in the wrong order with all pages intact, and some copies with the pages in the order order with some pages missing and others duplicated?
10. Which Pet Avenger appeared in the Secret Wars handbook?
11. Which licensed character never got an Official Handbook profile but did get a Gamer's handbook profile?
​12. Which country received an entry in hardcover #14 instead of Marvel Atlas?
13. Who had two separate entries in the Spider-Man: Back in Black Handbook under different names?
14. Which Handbook was the first to profile John Kowalski?
15. How many volumes did the trades connected to the Deluxe Edition run (the colour ones, not the Essential volumes)?
 
Bonus: In which volume of the Encyclopedia series that preceded the 2004 Handbooks did one of the writers declare that he couldn't write as well as someone from Wizard?


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2/21/2020 2:41 am  #11


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

10. Which handbook was the first to show art from Spidey Super Stories?
A-Z softcover #2. The Corps update showed the Captain Britain from that world.

I should have remembered that, given I wrote the entry in question.

Re-posting my two - two more days for anyone to attempt to answer.
(1) Which supporting cast member's surname, revealed in the handbooks, is a nod to a famous SF series?
(2) Two characters debuted in different issues of a comic a number of issues apart; both shared the same surname, and the writer later admitted they were intended to be siblings. However this wasn't confirmed in print until they received handbook entries - which two characters?

 

2/21/2020 2:48 am  #12


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

New questions (sorry, stumped by the two questions from Loki):
6. What was the third handbook devoted to the Ultimate universe called?
7. What was the only "Files" type book to have the bulk of its entries converted to Handbook profiles for the Hardcovers?
​12. Which country received an entry in hardcover #14 instead of Marvel Atlas?
14. Which Handbook was the first to profile John Kowalski?

As the head writer for the UItimate handbooks, and writer of said country entry and Kowalski, I'm recusing myself from these questions as I would have an unfair advantage.

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15.

10 I think.

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Bonus: In which volume of the Encyclopedia series that preceded the 2004 Handbooks did one of the writers declare that he couldn't write as well as someone from Wizard?

Hulk "Encyclopedia"? And yes, it does need "air quotes" round the latter word, as it was in no way an Encyclopedia.

 

2/21/2020 7:25 am  #13


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#15 and Bonus are correct. I'm missing the first volume and hope to find it someday, but I saw that Wizard bit in a preview promoting the Hulk book and it's dissuaded me from buying it even though I've seen it on sale really cheap (can't recall exact price but less than $10 Can).. I don't know if previewing that bit helped or hurt the sales overall, but it certainly killed one sale.


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2/21/2020 8:04 am  #14


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

#15 and Bonus are correct. I'm missing the first volume and hope to find it someday, but I saw that Wizard bit in a preview promoting the Hulk book and it's dissuaded me from buying it even though I've seen it on sale really cheap (can't recall exact price but less than $10 Can).. I don't know if previewing that bit helped or hurt the sales overall, but it certainly killed one sale.

Yeah, if they are offering you less than $10 to take it off their hands, then they aren't paying enough to make it worth your while.

 

2/21/2020 9:08 am  #15


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Well to be fair, I've also seen the A-Z softcovers and the index trades etc in cheap bins so quality obviously isn't the only factor, as those are obviously top notch, but there are very few comic reference books I wouldn't buy at that price range if i didn't already have, and I still hesitate with the Hulk book.


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2/21/2020 11:40 am  #16


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Going from memory.
1 Real name proved to be wrong.
9 Deluxe Edition
11 Solarman
12 Netherlands 

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2/21/2020 12:03 pm  #17


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Lonewolf36 wrote:

Going from memory.
1 Real name proved to be wrong.
9 Deluxe Edition
11 Solarman
12 Netherlands 

1. Correct. What makes it interesting is appears to have arisen from a misreading of his first appearance, as there was a Coot Collier in that story; he just wasn't the Enforcer. If Gru hadn't died so young I'd have liked to ask him if that played into the Scourge storyline, since the first Scourge also appeared to believe that Collier was the Enforcer.
9. No, the printing error was not in any issue of the Deluxe Edition. There was however a printing error in an issue of the Deluxe Edition that I'll ask about later if no one else asks it first.
11 and 12 are correct.


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2/21/2020 12:33 pm  #18


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12 Netherlands 

Having worked on the Atlases and being half-Dutch myself, I pushed to include that new entry in the last hardcover since the Netherlands didn't make the cut in the original Atlas run. Being the last of the run, and having some pages to play with, there was a general feeling that we wanted to try and cover as wide a spread of entry types as possible with the new entries, and to include some who might never otherwise get an entry. 

 

2/22/2020 4:29 pm  #19


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

New questions (sorry, stumped by teh two questions from Loki):
1. What is wrong with the Enforcer entry in the first series?
2. Which character in the original series had both a full (not Appendix) entry in the first 12 issues and then again in the 2-issue Book of the Dead and the Inactive?
3. Who was the first Inactive character from the first series to appear under their real name in the Deluxe edition?
4. How many pages total was the Alien Races section in the Deluxe Edition?
5. What was the most notable art change in Update '89 from previous versions?
6. What was the third handbook devoted to the Ultimate universe called?
7. What was the only "Files" type book to have the bulk of its entries converted to Handbook profiles for the Hardcovers?
8. Who received a new profile in the Hardcovers to fill a half page space in the latter K?
9. Due to a printing error, which Handbook had some copies pretty correctly, some copies printed in the wrong order with all pages intact, and some copies with the pages in the order order with some pages missing and others duplicated?
10. Which Pet Avenger appeared in the Secret Wars handbook?
11. Which licensed character never got an Official Handbook profile but did get a Gamer's handbook profile?
​12. Which country received an entry in hardcover #14 instead of Marvel Atlas?
13. Who had two separate entries in the Spider-Man: Back in Black Handbook under different names?
14. Which Handbook was the first to profile John Kowalski?
15. How many volumes did the trades connected to the Deluxe Edition run (the colour ones, not the Essential volumes)?
 
Bonus: In which volume of the Encyclopedia series that preceded the 2004 Handbooks did one of the writers declare that he couldn't write as well as someone from Wizard?

2. Dracula
3. Johnny Blaze
5. The inclusion of original art produced exclusively for the Handbooks, not just for the main images of each character but for the "action shots" as well. However, as Update 89 progressed, eventually the use of reprinted art for the action shots resumed.
6. Ultimate Secrets
7. New Avengers: Most Wanted Files
8. Knickknack
10. Throg
14. Marvel Legacy: The 1970's Handbook

 

2/22/2020 6:49 pm  #20


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2. Yes, Drac had an unfortunate encounter with the Montesi formula between #3 and #13.
3. Yes, Ghost Rider in the Book of the Dead and the Inactive, Blaze in Deluxe.
For #5 I'll have to take another look for that last part, but yes, that's the answer I was looking for.
6. Correct
7. New Avengers: Most Wanted Files had Files in the name and had Files qualities, but there was another book that was a lot more removed from Handbook format.
The last three are correct, so 7 right out of 8 answers is really good.


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2/23/2020 10:28 am  #21


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Loki wrote:

(1) Which supporting cast member's surname, revealed in the handbooks, is a nod to a famous SF series?
(2) Two characters debuted in different issues of a comic a number of issues apart; both shared the same surname, and the writer later admitted they were intended to be siblings. However this wasn't confirmed in print until they received handbook entries - which two characters?

Okay, I think time is up on these. So:
(1) Amiko Kobayashi. Having lacked a surname for years, Wolverine's foster daughter finally got a surname for her handbook entry. The one in question is a nod to the Kobayashi Maru test first mentioned in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
(2) Crazy Eight (Lesley Anne Shappe) and Speedfreek (Joss Shape), who debuted in Peter David's Hulk run, #380 and #388 respectively. 

 

2/23/2020 11:09 am  #22


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

7. What was the only "Files" type book to have the bulk of its entries converted to Handbook profiles for the Hardcovers?

Encyclopedia Mythologica?

 

2/23/2020 1:59 pm  #23


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zuckyd1 wrote:

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

7. What was the only "Files" type book to have the bulk of its entries converted to Handbook profiles for the Hardcovers?

Encyclopedia Mythologica?

Even more Files-like than that one, though to be sure when I did my "List of Changes in Hardcovers", that was the most brutal of them. But no, this one was flat out true Files, very little text possible to be carried over. Numerous completely different categories in the source. Unlike EM, which came out mid-hardcover run, this one preceded the hardcovers.

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2/27/2020 6:28 pm  #24


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Here's the ones that no one got (though one is being bumped):
4. How many pages total was the Alien Races section in the Deluxe Edition?
32 1/2. The trick was to remember that half the book was devoted to the aliens, so 64 divided by 2. I forgot about the two on the inside cover so i would have accepted anything in the 32-33 range

7. What was the only "Files" type book to have the bulk of its entries converted to Handbook profiles for the Hardcovers?
Annihilation: Nova Corps Files. The odd bit of history text got carried over, but most of the stats were incompatible with the Handbooks

9. Due to a printing error, which Handbook had some copies pretty correctly, some copies printed in the wrong order with all pages intact, and some copies with the pages in the order order with some pages missing and others duplicated?
X-Men: Earth's Mutant Heroes. The first time I tried to purchase I got the one with the duplicate/missing pages, the second time I got the version with just the pages in the wrong order. I later had a chance to get the right version, but since I now had all the entries anyway, I decided not to pay for a third copy. Eduardo suggested I had ticked off Loki. I think he meant the god, but ticking off the Handbook mwriter may have also produced that outcome.

13. Who had two separate entries in the Spider-Man: Back in Black Handbook under different names?
I screwed this one up so will bump this into the next round with the right question to play fair.

Speaking of which: Round three! I'll throw in an extra question to make up for the repeat question.
1. Who had two separate entries in the Spider-Man: Brand New Day under different names?
2. Which issue's cover of the first series was used as the cover for the Essential volume for the first series?
3. The Appendix in first series #3 accidentally assigned a hero's name to two villains (the same correct code name is used by both villains), What is the hero's name used in error and what is the correct shared villain's name?
4. What was the first time in the Deluxe Edition that two characters with the same code name had back to back entries?
5. What is interesting about the art for the J. Jonah Jameson and John Jameson entries in the Deluxe Edition?
6. Aside from Update '89 itself, Essenital OHOTMU Update '89 also included a few whiches from which Handbook series?
7. What colour was used for the background of both OHOTMU: Spider-Man 2004 and 2005?
8. Why was Mr. Zodiac's entry in Marvel Legacy: 1970s a first for the handbooks?
9. Which character announced (and originally on the cover) for one of the OHOTMU Updates was pulled very shortly before the book went to the presses?
10. What was the first flip book in the Guidebook series?
11. Under which alias was James Barnes listed under in the hardcover series?
12. What was the first Handbook (not counting Guidebooks) to be in the current Handbook format?
13. The Santa Claus entry in the hardcovers was a revised version of an entry that first appeared where?
14. What was the Appendix  in Thor: Asgard's Avenger devoted to?
15. When did Scarlet Scarab most recently get an entry in the Official Handbooks?
16. What organized crime group got an entry in Mighty Avengers: Most Wanted?
 


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2/27/2020 7:00 pm  #25


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6. Aside from Update '89 itself, Essenital OHOTMU Update '89 also included a few whiches from which Handbook series?
9. Which character announced (and originally on the cover) for one of the OHOTMU Updates was pulled very shortly before the book went to the presses?
10. What was the first flip book in the Guidebook series?
12. What was the first Handbook (not counting Guidebooks) to be in the current Handbook format?
13. The Santa Claus entry in the hardcovers was a revised version of an entry that first appeared where?
14. What was the Appendix  in Thor: Asgard's Avenger devoted to?
15. When did Scarlet Scarab most recently get an entry in the Official Handbooks?
 

6. The Deluxe series trade collections
9. Red Ronin?
10. Incredible Hulk/Iron Man 2
12. All-New All Different handbook?
13. Marvel Holiday Special (2006?)
14. Asgardians
15. original series?

 

2/27/2020 7:36 pm  #26


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6. The Deluxe series trade collections
9. Red Ronin?
10. Incredible Hulk/Iron Man 2
12. All-New All Different handbook?
13. Marvel Holiday Special (2006?)
14. Asgardians
15. original series?

All those are correct. For Scarlet Scarab I was careful to quality Official Handbook as he did make it into one of the Gamer Handbooks. While Essential Update '89 didn't include every entry that had any changes. it did cover new to Deluxe material plus any entry deemed significantly changed. For example, Beast reverted to his original look shortly after Deluxe #2 came out, but that was deemed too big a surprise to reveal prematurely; however,by the time the trades came out it was okay to show that look.


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3/03/2020 8:34 am  #27


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Any more takers for this round? Answers on Thursday as usual.


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3/03/2020 9:34 am  #28


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Any more takers for this round? Answers on Thursday as usual.

Feels a bit like cheating since I wrote the entry in question, but:
8) It was the first character who had appeared only in a Big Little Book.

 

3/03/2020 1:28 pm  #29


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Obviously #8 is correct. I think he's still the only such character. It was a fun choice. While you obviously need characters like Spider-Man, Wolverine etc for sales, most people already know the basics of the character even before they read the profile. With the likes of Mr. Zodiac most readers are actually learning a little something about the Marvel Universe.  I know I read some Big Little Books as a kid but don't recall if that was one of them.


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3/03/2020 2:04 pm  #30


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Obviously #8 is correct. I think he's still the only such character. It was a fun choice. While you obviously need characters like Spider-Man, Wolverine etc for sales, most people already know the basics of the character even before they read the profile. With the likes of Mr. Zodiac most readers are actually learning a little something about the Marvel Universe.  I know I read some Big Little Books as a kid but don't recall if that was one of them.

Yep. We liked to try and cover at least a few of the more obscure and esoteric characters out there, to try and break new ground. 

 

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