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8/26/2021 3:08 pm  #151


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

Thank you all for your nice replies, guys:
1) it is a pity that Cerebro Files is disapperead from Internet, I will search for it in the WebArchive
2) if it is not for Moon Knight but for Marvel Knights, maybe instead of:
Bibliography ..., MKni 1⅔, ...
and
Power Ratings ..., MKni ⅓, ...
we could have:
Bibliography ..., MvKn ⅔, ...
and
Power Ratings ..., MvKn ⅓, ...

 

8/26/2021 3:39 pm  #152


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

Anybody ever make a copy of the Handbook Bibliographies before they went offline?

http://www.marvunapp.com/ohotmu/bibliography/index.html

 

8/27/2021 6:53 am  #153


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

Lonewolf36 wrote:

Anybody ever make a copy of the Handbook Bibliographies before they went offline?

http://www.marvunapp.com/ohotmu/bibliography/index.html

http://marvel.com:80/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-Contents">https://web.archive.org/web/20180317151445/http://marvel.com:80/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-Contents

EDIT: Click on the right link. I'm not sure why that left link is showing up.

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8/27/2021 6:58 am  #154


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #72 Cover B (Oct 2021)
Vulture 1

 

8/27/2021 7:11 am  #155


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

Would there be any objections from the Handbook writers or Marvel as I whole if I were to copy the Bibliography info onto this site? I won't if there are issues with that, but otherwise this site would be a good place to hold such archival information.


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8/27/2021 8:02 am  #156


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About Scarlet Witch, we see that in the list she would appear in Mystic Arcana: The Book of Marvel Magic (2 pages) but I don't find her in that book, she appears, insteadm, in the Mystic Arcana hardcover (one of the three unique entries, 2 pages), so we could change, in her appearances, MysAr in MysAhc

 

8/27/2021 9:38 am  #157


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

zuckyd1 wrote:

Lonewolf36 wrote:

Anybody ever make a copy of the Handbook Bibliographies before they went offline?

http://www.marvunapp.com/ohotmu/bibliography/index.html

http://marvel.com:80/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-Contents">https://web.archive.org/web/20180317151445/http://marvel.com:80/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-Contents

EDIT: Click on the right link. I'm not sure why that left link is showing up.

Amazing Zuckyd1! Thanks! I agree this would be a great place to archive the info if there is no problems with it.

 

8/28/2021 1:15 am  #158


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

About:
RHlk4: Rampaging Hulk (first series) #4
it has 5 profiles ok, but also #8 of Rampaging Hulk volume 1 has 5 profiles too, the following ones:
Gallery of Villains: Gent and genius -- Giant-Man! Gallery of Villains: The savage, sinister and shockingly evil Secret Empire!  Gallery of Villains: The star-stalking spectacularly unscrupulous Stranger   Gallery of Villains: The angry, awesome, absolutely aggravating Abomination!
Gallery of Villains: The soaring, sensational, sky-riding Silver Surfer
         
 

 

8/28/2021 7:07 am  #159


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mal32 wrote:

About:
RHlk4: Rampaging Hulk (first series) #4
it has 5 profiles ok, but also #8 of Rampaging Hulk volume 1 has 5 profiles too, the following ones:
Gallery of Villains: Gent and genius -- Giant-Man! Gallery of Villains: The savage, sinister and shockingly evil Secret Empire!  Gallery of Villains: The star-stalking spectacularly unscrupulous Stranger   Gallery of Villains: The angry, awesome, absolutely aggravating Abomination!
Gallery of Villains: The soaring, sensational, sky-riding Silver Surfer
         
 

I will be more clear, we should add the following one-page profiles on the Rampaging Hulk (first series) #8:
Giant-Man (Henry Pym, Earth-7711)
Secret Empire (Earth-7711)
Stranger (Earth-7711)
Abomination (Earth-7711)
Silver Surfer (Earth-7711)

Maybe we could add (Earth-7711) also to the profiles from Rampaging Hulk (first series) #4 or do you prefer all these profiles (from #4 and #8) without (Earth-7711)?
 

 

8/28/2021 7:17 am  #160


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

mal32 wrote:

About:
RHlk4: Rampaging Hulk (first series) #4
it has 5 profiles ok, but also #8 of Rampaging Hulk volume 1 has 5 profiles too, the following ones:
Gallery of Villains: Gent and genius -- Giant-Man! Gallery of Villains: The savage, sinister and shockingly evil Secret Empire!  Gallery of Villains: The star-stalking spectacularly unscrupulous Stranger   Gallery of Villains: The angry, awesome, absolutely aggravating Abomination!
Gallery of Villains: The soaring, sensational, sky-riding Silver Surfer
      

Hmm, unfortunately The Essential Rampaging Hulk vol. 1 didn't reprint any of the profiles, but judging from the descriptions, those sound more like they belong in the Posters thread, which is where we put the more informal profiles. I'll try to find images online when I get around to updating this list in the fall. I'll also try to hunt down the already listed profiles because as you note, the Bereet retcon complicates which Earth they might be from.


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8/28/2021 7:53 am  #161


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Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

mal32 wrote:

About:
RHlk4: Rampaging Hulk (first series) #4
it has 5 profiles ok, but also #8 of Rampaging Hulk volume 1 has 5 profiles too, the following ones:
Gallery of Villains: Gent and genius -- Giant-Man! Gallery of Villains: The savage, sinister and shockingly evil Secret Empire!  Gallery of Villains: The star-stalking spectacularly unscrupulous Stranger   Gallery of Villains: The angry, awesome, absolutely aggravating Abomination!
Gallery of Villains: The soaring, sensational, sky-riding Silver Surfer
      

Hmm, unfortunately The Essential Rampaging Hulk vol. 1 didn't reprint any of the profiles, but judging from the descriptions, those sound more like they belong in the Posters thread, which is where we put the more informal profiles. I'll try to find images online when I get around to updating this list in the fall. I'll also try to hunt down the already listed profiles because as you note, the Bereet retcon complicates which Earth they might be from.

Here there are some of them both from #4 and from #8:
https://longboxgraveyard.com/2015/03/04/gamma-goes-grey-the-rampaging-hulk/
if you want I could send you (and to other persons needeng them) the missing ones because I have all of them, let me know

 

8/28/2021 11:09 pm  #162


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

About:
Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)
we have:
..., SGwen #8 1 as Jessica Drew
but her profile is on Spider-Gwen volume 2 #7, so it could be:
..., SGwen #7 1 as Jessica Drew

 

 

8/29/2021 12:46 am  #163


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About Spider-Gwen (second series) the list is missing the following profiles:
SGwen #9 1 CINDY 65 aka SUPERIOR SILK (Cindy Moon; Earth-65)
SGwen #10 1 KRAVEN THE HUNTER (Sergey Kravinoff; Earth-65)
SGwen #11 1 JEAN DEWOLFF (Earth-65)
SGwen #12 1 REED RICHARDS (Earth-65)
SGwen #13 1 THE MARY JANES (Earth-65)
SGwen #15 1 S.I.L.K. Strategic Intelligence and Logistic K. (Earth-65)
SGwen #18 1 Spider-Ham (Peter Porker)

 

8/29/2021 12:59 pm  #164


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About CONAN UNIVERSE, there are three editions of it: the Original (color) 1986 one, the 1993 black and white reprint given with CONAN SAGA 75 and the 2020 (color) reprint.
They are 99% the same but the 1993 "Conan Saga 75" one in the central pages 17 and 18 gives different maps called "THE HYBORIAN AGE OF CONAN" respect the nameless map given with the Original Conan Universe. The interesting thing is that the 2020 reprint offers the same original nameless map in pages 17/18 but it reprints also the 2 pages of "THE HYBORIAN AGE OF CONAN" at the end of itself.
So maybe we could change:
Pre-Catacyclismic Lands ConS75 1
to:
Hyborian Age of Conan (Hyborian Age map) ConS75 2 (reprintend in Conan Universe 2020 edition)
 

 

8/29/2021 8:14 pm  #165


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

Here is a question. Would the Doctor Doom's Revenge Super-Hero Handbook (1989) (Paragon Software) go here it come with 1989 game and promo comic? I just got my hands on a copy.
Cover https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/05/8e/c1058e932d6fe7fee798f6928c39f6da.jpg
Sample entries
Spider-Man https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/b8/aa/6fb8aa469f20cf29bd654f11f366f5a3.jpg
Eduardo Lobo & Grey Gargoyle https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/52/4c/b8524c6ddaccefc4a81d744496f43a16.jpg

Here is the contents
Spider-Man 1
Captain America 1
Doctor Doom 1
Spider-Man's Villains
Eduardo Lobo 1/2
Grey Gargoyle 1/2
Machete (Ferdinand) 1/2
Boomerang 1/2
Captain America's Villains
Oddball (Elton) 1/2
Rattan 1/2
Electro 1/2
Hobgoblin 1/2
Rhino 1/2
Batroc 1/2

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8/29/2021 11:08 pm  #166


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Lonewolf36 wrote:

Here is a question. Would the Doctor Doom's Revenge Super-Hero Handbook (1989) (Paragon Software) go here it come with 1989 game and promo comic? I just got my hands on a copy.
Cover https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/05/8e/c1058e932d6fe7fee798f6928c39f6da.jpg
Sample entries
Spider-Man https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/b8/aa/6fb8aa469f20cf29bd654f11f366f5a3.jpg
Eduardo Lobo & Grey Gargoyle https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/52/4c/b8524c6ddaccefc4a81d744496f43a16.jpg

Here is the contents
Spider-Man 1
Captain America 1
Doctor Doom 1
Spider-Man's Villains
Eduardo Lobo 1/2
Grey Gargoyle 1/2
Machete (Ferdinand) 1/2
Boomerang 1/2
Captain America's Villains
Oddball (Elton) 1/2
Rattan 1/2
Electro 1/2
Hobgoblin 1/2
Rhino 1/2
Batroc 1/2

I was thinking the same question and I think these profiles could go here
 

 

8/30/2021 3:39 am  #167


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

mal32 wrote:

Lonewolf36 wrote:

Here is a question. Would the Doctor Doom's Revenge Super-Hero Handbook (1989) (Paragon Software) go here it come with 1989 game and promo comic? I just got my hands on a copy.
Cover https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/05/8e/c1058e932d6fe7fee798f6928c39f6da.jpg
Sample entries
Spider-Man https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/b8/aa/6fb8aa469f20cf29bd654f11f366f5a3.jpg
Eduardo Lobo & Grey Gargoyle https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/52/4c/b8524c6ddaccefc4a81d744496f43a16.jpg

Here is the contents
Spider-Man 1
Captain America 1
Doctor Doom 1
Spider-Man's Villains
Eduardo Lobo 1/2
Grey Gargoyle 1/2
Machete (Ferdinand) 1/2
Boomerang 1/2
Captain America's Villains
Oddball (Elton) 1/2
Rattan 1/2
Electro 1/2
Hobgoblin 1/2
Rhino 1/2
Batroc 1/2

I was thinking the same question and I think these profiles could go here
 

It's already posted in the non-Marvel thread. Since it's not actually published by Marvel I think it should be treated similarly to other game-related material from TSR, etc.

 

8/30/2021 6:17 am  #168


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

Yes, I hunted down an image and while Marvel is mentioned and the stats are certainly compatible with Handbook profiles, the indicia suggests that it was the game company that published the book, not Marvel.

The stats do look pretty accurate for the time period, but if we allowed them, we'd also have to allow less accurate external material like the DK Marvel books.


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8/30/2021 12:59 pm  #169


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The Sentries (Kree)
have a 1 page profile also in Avengers (first series) #381

 

8/30/2021 10:48 pm  #170


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YngAv XStor: Young Avengers #1 Director's Cut
there is XStor to take off because repeated from X-Men: Storm by Warren Ellis & Terry Dodson tpb
 

 

9/01/2021 11:59 am  #171


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

In the "Sightings Outside the Handbooks" list, we have:

Exiles: Days of then & Now Exiles U

Incomplete Death’s Head #1 Dragon’s Claws 1 N
Incomplete Death’s Head #3 Spratt 1 N
Incomplete Death’s Head #5 Doctor 1 N

Namor the Sub-Mariner #36 (all 1 N): Fen, Lords Seth and Dara, Tamara Rahn, Arlys Tigershark, Namorita
Namor the Sub-Mariner #37 Suma-Ket 1 N

White Tiger tpb White Tiger R (new images)

could they go also in the MASTER LIST of this page, too?

Last edited by mal32 (9/01/2021 12:01 pm)

 

9/02/2021 11:13 am  #172


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mal32 wrote:

In the "Sightings Outside the Handbooks" list, we have:

Exiles: Days of then & Now Exiles U

Incomplete Death’s Head #1 Dragon’s Claws 1 N
Incomplete Death’s Head #3 Spratt 1 N
Incomplete Death’s Head #5 Doctor 1 N

Namor the Sub-Mariner #36 (all 1 N): Fen, Lords Seth and Dara, Tamara Rahn, Arlys Tigershark, Namorita
Namor the Sub-Mariner #37 Suma-Ket 1 N

White Tiger tpb White Tiger R (new images)

could they go also in the MASTER LIST of this page, too?

Same question about:
Thanos Redemption (all U unless noted): Thanos 6, Beyonder 3 R text/U illos, Death 2, Galactus 6, Gladiator 2, Skreet 1 R

Ultraverse Origins #1 (all N): Warstrike 2, Wrath 1, U-231

X-Men Adventures #15 (all Earth-92131 1 N): Cyclops, Gambit, Jean Grey, Jubilee, Professor X, Rogue, Storm, Wolverine

and talking about U-231 from Ultraverse Origins #1, could we add that he is also know as Sludge? like this: (a.k.a. Sludge)
 

 

9/03/2021 1:18 pm  #173


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SINISTER WAR #4 Cover C (Nov 2021)
Lady Octopus 1

 

9/09/2021 10:34 am  #174


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THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #73 Cover B (Nov 2021)
Shocker 1

 

9/23/2021 7:51 am  #175


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X-MEN #3 Cover B (Nov 2021)
Marvel Girl 1

 

9/28/2021 9:36 am  #176


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About:
Lightning (Masked Rider's horse) MWes ⅙ sub, Pets App

the correct name of Lightning's rider is Masked Raider, so we could have:
Lightning (Masked Raider's horse) MWes ⅙ sub, Pets App

 

10/14/2021 6:50 am  #177


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X-MEN #4 Cover C (Dec 2021)
Sunfire 1

 

10/31/2021 12:18 am  #178


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About:
Citadel of Silence of Mount Wundagore Del #6 App as Citadel of Silence; Atlas #1 1 sub (Transia) as Citadel of Silence of Mount Wundagore

there are two problems:
1) the Citadel of Silence from Del  #6 App is not connected at all to the Citadel of Science of Mount Wundagore
2) in Atlas #1 1 sub (Transia) there is the Citadel of Science, not of Silence

so we could have:
Citadel of Science of Mount Wundagore Atlas #1 1 sub (Transia)
Citadel of Silence Del #6 App

 

11/19/2021 9:27 pm  #179


Re: The OHOTMU Master List (also Files, Guidebooks, and Related Works)

Issues 3,4, and 5 of Dreadstar and Company has entries that could belong here. They're called "the Dreadsat and Company Files" and are written in the same format as the OHotMU Deluxe Edition. The main difference is that the first two entries don't have pictures to go with them and the third has an action shot instead of a static OMotMU-type image. Still, they are in a Marvel published title and have the same format as other entries, so what do you think?

3: Vanth Dreadstar
4: Syzygy Darklock
5: Oedi

All entries are on 2 pages
 

 

11/19/2021 9:41 pm  #180


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Sidney Osinga wrote:

Issues 3,4, and 5 of Dreadstar and Company has entries that could belong here. They're called "the Dreadsat and Company Files" and are written in the same format as the OHotMU Deluxe Edition. The main difference is that the first two entries don't have pictures to go with them and the third has an action shot instead of a static OMotMU-type image. Still, they are in a Marvel published title and have the same format as other entries, so what do you think?
3: Vanth Dreadstar
4: Syzygy Darklock
5: Oedi

All entries are on 2 pages
 

Despite the similar format, they belong in Non-Marvel because Dreadstar isn't known to be part of the Marvel multiverse/megaverse despite being published by them for a time. In contrast, the Conan Handbook's format is far more removed from regular profiles, but Conan has had known ties to the Marvel Universe for quite some time. I allow special sections in the DC Who's Who list for non-DC stuff under the Who's Who banner, but only because there's much less material than the Handbooks and because the original Who's Who had a lot of non-canon material like Atari Force-related profiles, which blurs the line with those ones. I'm sure there are some x degrees of separation to be found between Dreadstar and the Marvel Universe, but to my knowledge, no ties strong enough that they belong with the more clearcut cases like Conan, Rom, etc.


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