RVcousin wrote:

I have a question for a potential update and that could answer almost every other questions : are all the mutants fighting alongside Jean in X of Swords Destruction, full X-Men members ?

No. With the Quiet Council's ruling that the X-Men are no more, the mutants gathered behind Jean in X of Swords: Destruction can't be X-Men because the team no longer exists as of the start of the issue. She used the term, yes, but the team does not exist any longer, per the team's founder and owner, Professor X.

Definitely stay tuned for more developments on this front in 2021!

Loki wrote:

By "resurrection machine" are you asking about the Five?

You have interesting questions, but OHOTMU wouldn't be the place where stories flesh out the Five and the limits of ressureciton can take place. We'd say to keep reading the X books to see how it all plays out (including Moira's story)!

I have no idea what the Five is, I just meant whatever brought everyone back to life. As to your other point, I have to be honest: the Handbook convinced me that I wouldn't enjoy the current run of x-titles. I don't know who's writing which x-title or even which x-books exist at the moment, but I'm guessing that a lot of things covered are from the title(s) Hickman is writing, and after Secret Wars I realized that Hickman's writing doesn't mesh well with my sensibilities and I decided with Secret Wars that since at the time I made my decision there was only one issue left, I would read the final issue and then stop reading Hickman's books. he has some interesting ideas, but I find his writing cerebral to the point of usually ignoring the humanity of the characters (though I did like his portrayal of the kids in FF).  A good example being that his run of New Avengers was basically three years of characters standing around debating whether or not it was okay to blow up other Earths to save their own. Just not my tastes. Also the ramping up of the revolving door of death doesn't work for me because there needs to be a minimal amount of suspense for me to enjoy a title and for me. If everyone can be brought back on a whim, then I can't feel anything for characters when they get killed off.

A couple nitpicks I keep meaning to mention: In the first paragraph of Moira's History, one bit reads "they had three children, who in turn had eight grandchildren". I'm pretty sure that the grandchildren are Moira and Kenneth's but as written it reads more like it's their children who had the eight grandchildren.

The other nitpick is the bottom left column of X-Men page 7 mentions "new recruits Honey Badger (a young clone of X-23)", but she's not mentioned in the roster info in the back. I finally figured out she must be Scout due to the Kinney surname, but there should probably be a clarifiier somewhere that Honey Badger and Scout are the same person.

Thank you very very much for all this answers.
I have one last remark about the JGS employees : according to the OHOTMU X-Men 2005, the School Faculty is an Official Sub-Team.

Whatever, thank you very much for your work and your answers.

Loki wrote:

Rayeye wrote:

On a final note I remember a comic page with icons of those X-Men who lived on Utopia. At that page the main X-Men team was named the Extinction Team, Psylocke's team was called Security Recon (X-Men) and there was a Street Team with Dazzler, Boom Boom and Lifeguard as members. I wonder if these were official (sub-team) names? IIRC the Street Team was also called San Francisco Street Team in some later comic issue.

Just spotted this comment and query, which I managed to overlook earlier and thus didn't pass it on. Before I do, any chance you recall which specific issue these designations were shown?

First, big thanks for all your replies and answers to my questions!

I just checked it: the Extinction Team, Street Team, etc. were listed and named in Uncanny X-Men (2012) #1. I haven't found yet in which issue the Street Team was called San Francisco Street Team.

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I get the feeling that the maybe Marvel should have waited a little longer before bring the the X or Swords handbook. Just read Excalibur #16 today and there are mad retcons being made. Makes some of the entries in the handbook feel old hat.

Unless someone is willing to confirm that everything is going to go back the status quo prior to X of Swords?

Loki wrote:

Nexus wrote:

I get the feeling that the maybe Marvel should have waited a little longer before bring the the X or Swords handbook. Just read Excalibur #16 today and there are mad retcons being made. Makes some of the entries in the handbook feel old hat.

Peril of any handbook. No matter when you publish, there's always a risk that the very next issue a character appears in we get a retcon that changes things.

Always remember the gold standard: Barry "The Flash II" Allen received an entry in the original WHO'S WHO, issue #8 to be exact, one month before he died in CRISIS #8.  I mean, they weren't going to spoil that story, but it was a pretty major status quo change that made his entry immediately out of date.

zuckyd1 wrote:

Any "comprehensive" handbook entry is going to eventually wind up being a snapshot in time—some sooner than others.

We've even had fun with this - the 1960s Legacy Handbook took advantage of the idea that it only covered to the final month of that decade to end Spidey's entry talking about how Pete and Gwen looked set to enjoy many years together, and to report on Nick Fury having been assassinated; the first month of 1970 he was revealed to have faked his death.