Who Watches the Watchers - Forum for the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe & Similar Works / Collages - Coming Up

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 10/24/2020 1:35 am

Just to give a sense of what I have planed for future collages, and not wanting to highjack the general thread, here is what's to come. I'll delete from the first post as rounds begin and add/adjust as new ideas arise. I'm enjoying these collages enough that I might not go back to existing posters for a while.

In order:

In progress:
Arrowverse Update (currently in round 3 of 4)

Character List started:
DC Live Update: Streaming, Watchmen, Others Who Missed Their Slot (3-parter)

Not yet started:
DC but Not DCU Live: Paradox Press, non-DCU Vertigo, etc (is there is interest there)
Agents of SHIELD Update
Other Marvel Live Update
Indie Live Superheroes Update

Possible projects down the road, but not in any firm order:
Non-DC Marvel Live Projects based on Comics
Non-DC Marvel Animated Projects based on Comics: Depending on what I find, this may be all one post
Vampires - Live and maybe Animated
Zombies - Live/Animated; including zombie fighters so as to not spoil who gets turned
Other humanoid monsters (lycanthropes, Frankenstein Monster variants, Michael Myers variants, etc)

Things will continue beyond this point, but I think that's a good start.

Last edited by Andy E. Nystrom (5/02/2022 6:07 am)

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 10/28/2020 4:28 pm

Updated the above. Loki, would you like me to avoid final season Agents of SHIELD characters in the Marvel collages? I'm fine with leaving them out if needed.

**Posted by Loki** 10/29/2020 12:54 am

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:
Updated the above. Loki, would you like me to avoid final season Agents of SHIELD characters in the Marvel collages? I'm fine with leaving them out if needed.

Disney+ are apparently going to be adding AoS S7 to their UK lineup starting late next month, albeit weekly so it's take until the new year for all the episodes to air. However, I'm fine with including characters from it in collages - at worst, that'd spoil surprise appearances of characters getting their MCU debut. I can live with that. It's getting stuff like character deaths spoiled that I hate.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/05/2020 9:49 am

Updated my notes on Marvel, including notes on how I've chosen to handle the X-Men movies, which are the same timeline from First Class up until Wolverine arrives from the future (from the X-Men perspective) in Days of Future Past.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/08/2020 7:20 am

Updated the above. Might shuffle the order depending on my mood.

One general thought with the collages: It takes a few hours to create collages especially since I'm now creating lists in advance rather than going from memory so I want the collages to last a bit. Plus I want to make sure everyone has a decent crack at these, since not everyone who might want to participate is going to be on these boards everyday. So what I propose is, no more the 50 guesses per person per 24 hour period. Minor numbering corrections don't count towards the tally but actual incorrect guesses do. so if your first guess is at 1:13 pm/13:13 your time, your 51st guess could not be before 1:13 pm/13:13 your time the following day. Multiple guesses in one post cumulative. Obviously four people working together in the same timeframe could still clear a 187 image collage in a day, but that is unlikely. Does that seem fair to everyone?

**Posted by Loki** 11/08/2020 7:27 am

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:
So what I propose is, no more the 50 guesses per person per 24 hour period.

You can cut it to fewer than that if you like. I know this is mostly inspired by me, as I do have a tendency to just blitzkrieg through the collages. I'll restrain myself a bit in future, as I really wasn't trying to hog the entire collage.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/08/2020 8:10 am

Okay, let's go with 30 per 24 hour period then. That way most collages should last a week give or take, which gives me plenty of breathing space to create new collages, and will definitely ensure that anyone who wants to play can do so.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/12/2020 1:47 pm

Updated notes on the first post.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/18/2020 7:15 am

Updated notes on the first post.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/26/2020 6:25 pm

Question mainly for Loki and zuckyd1 as the main respondents to the collages, though anyone else who might want to play can chime in: Are you knowledgeable enough with in-house Troma movies for me to do a Troma Universe collage? It's an idea I'm mulling over, as there are a lot of bizarre characters (and not just in the superhero stuff; Stuck on You and Troma's War for example have a lot of distinct characters), but if everyone would be quickly stumped I'll skip that one.

**Posted by Loki** 11/27/2020 3:33 am

I'm not really a Troma guy, but don't let that stop you, especially if zuckyd1 is.

**Posted by zuckyd1** 11/27/2020 9:18 am

Not really a Troma guy either, but I'd be willing to give it a shot.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/27/2020 9:43 am

Given that no one is a Troma person, I might just scatter the characters in other collages instead; Troma's War characters could fit into an Action Heroes collage for example.. I'll see how many Troma characters make it to the end of Indie Superheroes and Indie Superheroes' Villains & Supporting Cast. If a lot of them make it to near the end of each round or even stump people entirely, it might mean that a Troma collage would be too hard.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 12/04/2020 5:38 pm

Updated the above. For DC Animated, so far the cut-off is 2006. I know some people here are fans of Brave and the Bold so I *could* include that here, but check the current tallies, particularly the villains before you say yes or no to including that, which would mean I'd also be adding other material from the same timeframe (and yes there were some "not really that evil" villains I actually rejected). I would be open to covering the newer material at a later date regardless.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 12/05/2020 7:10 pm

One update I did got lost: for DC Animated, I am going past 2006 and am up to the present, skipping only a few projects. I'll be using an online number randomizer and will be splitting up at least the Superheroes and Villains collages. TBD if the Allies collage will need to be split.

Because there are a huge number of continuities involved, I'll let you know in advance which continuities there are. So far:
1. Superman theatrical shorts
2. "Filmation Universe": New Adventures of Superman/Adventures of Superboy.Aquaman/Adventures of Batman/other shorts from the Aquaman/Superman Hour of Adventure
3. New Scooby-Doo Mysteries/one episode of batman: Brave and the Bold
4. Brady Kids
5. Super Friends/All New Superfriends Hour, Challenge of the Superfriends/World's Greatest Superfriends, Super Friends: The Lost Episodes/Super Friends: The Legendary Super Powers Team/Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians
6. New Adventures of Batman
7. The Plastic Man Comedy/Adventure Show
8. Kid Super Power Hour with Shazam! (Shazam segments)
9. Superman
10. Swamp Thing
11. DC Animated Universe: Batman: The Animated Series, The Batman and Robin Adventures, Superman: The Animated Series, The New Batman Adventures, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Batman & Mr. Freeze: Sub-Zero, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman, (debatable Justice League vs the Fatal Five; The Zeta Project is also part of this continuity but something had to give
12. Teen Titans, Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo
13. The Batman, The Batman vs. Dracula
14. Krypto the Superdog
15. Plastic Man pilot
16. Superman: Brainiac Attacks
17. Superman: Doomsday
18. Justice League: The New Frontier
19. Batman: Gotham Knight
20. Legion of Superheroes
21. Batman: The Brave and the Bold, Batman & Scooby-Doo: The Brave and the Bold
22. Wonder Woman animated movie
23. Green Lantern: First Flight
24. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse
25. Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths
26. Batman: Under the Red Hood
27. Young Justice
28, DC Showcase shorts
29. All-Star Superman
30. Green Lantern: Emerald Knights
31. Batman: Year One
32. Green Lantern: The Animated Series
33. Justice League: Doom
34. Superman vs the Elite
35. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 2
36. Superman: Unbound
37. Justice League: Flashpoint (pre-Flashpoint)
38. Justice League: Flashpoint (during Flashpoint)
39. DC Animated Movie Universe: Justice League: Flashpoint (post-Flashpoint), Justice League: War, Son of Batman, Justice League: Throne of Atlantis, Nightwing and Robin, Batman vs. Robin, Batman: Bad Blood, Justice League vs. Teen Titans, Justice League Dark, Teen Titans: The Judas Contract, Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, Death of Superman. Constantine: City of Demons, Reign of the Supermen, Batman: Hush, Wonder Woman: Bloodlines, Justice League Dark: Apokolips War
40. Beware the Batman
41. JLA Adventures: Trappoed in Time
42. Batman: Assault on Arkham
43. Batman Unlimited: Animal Instincts, Batman Unlimited: Monster Mayhem, Batman Unlimited: Mechs vs Mutants
44. Vixen, Freedom Fighters: The Ray
45. Justice League: Gods and Monsters (select characters only)
46. Batman: The Killing Joke
47. Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders, Batman vs Two-Face
48. Justice League Action
49. Batman: Gotham by Gaslight
50. Batman Ninja
51. Batman vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Batman related characters only)
52. Superman: Red Son

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**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 12/29/2020 6:52 am

Updated first post.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 1/18/2021 8:55 am

One question for people who did the collages: I tried to strike a balance between visibility of image and amount of scrolling, since it's nice to see as much of the collage at once if possible. Do people prefer to see more of the image even if it means more scrolling, or are people happy to see more of the costume cropped if it means having to scroll down less? I'm working on part 4 of DC Animated Villains and trying the latter a bit here and there.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 2/23/2021 3:52 pm

With part 1 almost finished, I've decided to show the unnumbered collages for parts 2 to 4 of the DC Animated Villains series (the numbered versions exist, but I don't want any premature guessing). I'm doing so partly to get everyone a sense of who appears in which collage ahead of time, but also as follow up to my previous question. For part 4 I cropped the images more to get more images on a single row, this less scrolling. Let me know if you have a preference for more of image visible/more scrolling or less of image visible/less scrolling. I'll factor any feedback into the DC Animated - Other collages. Images below are subject to change (due to a character showing up twice, etc).
Part 2:

Part 3:

Part 4:

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 5/06/2021 2:10 pm

Updated the first post. Here are the continuities so far for the Marvel Animated collages. More will follow, but these are the ones I've added so far to my list of characters (each number below treated as one continuity):

1. The Marvel Super Heroes (segments for Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Sub-Mariner)
2. Fantastic Four (1967)
3. Spider-Man (1967)
4. Fantastic Four (1978)
5. Fred and Barney Meet the Thing
6. Spider-Woman
7. Toie TV movies (Dracula: Sovereign of the Damned, Monster of Frankenstein)
8. Marvel Productions shows [Spider-Man (1981), Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends, The Incredible Hulk (1982)]
9. Solarman pilot (arguably a borderline case, but there are only a few characters)
10. X-Men pilot (Pryde of the X-Men)
11. Marvel Animated Universe [X-Men: The Animated Series, Spider-Man (1994), Iron Man (1994), Fantastic Four (1994), Incredible Hulk (1996), Silver Surfer, Spider-man Unlimited, Avengers: United They Stand].

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 5/06/2021 5:12 pm

12. X-Men Evolution
13. Spider-Man: The New Animated Series
14. Ultimate Avengers (Ultimate Avengers: The Movie, Ultimate Avengers II)

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 5/12/2021 7:59 pm

Okay, I think I've come up with about as many characters as are going to appear in the Marvel collages. Not doing Lego, stop motion animation, motion comics, or web shorts where info is sparse. Let me know if you think I'm overlooking anything beyond that. Continuities:

1. The Marvel Super Heroes (segments for Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Sub-Mariner)
2. Fantastic Four (1967)
3. Spider-Man (1967)
4. Fantastic Four (1978)
5. Fred and Barney Meet the Thing
6. Spider-Woman
7. Toie TV movies (Dracula: Sovereign of the Damned, Monster of Frankenstein)
8. Marvel Productions shows [Spider-Man (1981), Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends, The Incredible Hulk (1982)]
9. Solarman pilot (arguably a borderline case, but there are only a few characters)
10. X-Men pilot (Pryde of the X-Men)
11. X-Men, Spider-Man (1994)
12. Fantastic Four (1994), Iron Man (1994), Incredible Hulk (1994)
13. Silver Surfer
14. Spider-Man Unlimited
15. Avengers: United They Stand
16. X-Men Evolution
17. Spider-Man: The New Animated Series
18. Ultimate Avengers (Ultimate Avengers: The Movie, Ultimate Avengers II)
19. Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes
20. Invincible Iron Man
21. Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme
22. Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow
23. The Spectacular Spider-Man
24. Yost Universe [Wolverine and the X-Men, Hulk Vs. (Hulk Vs. Wolverine, Hulk Vs. Thor), The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Thor: Tales of Asgard]
25. Iron Man: Armored Adventures
26. Super Hero Squad Show
27. Planet Hulk
28. Anime (Marvel Anime: Iron Man, Wolverine, X-Men, Blade; Iron Man: Rise of Technovore; Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher)
29. Phineas and Ferb: Mission Marvel (Marvel characters only)
30. Heroes United (Iron Man & Hulk: Heroes United, Iron Man & Captain America: Heroes United)
31. Ultimate (Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Assemble seasons 1-4, Hulk and the Agents of SMASH, Hulk: Where Monsters Dwell)
32: Big Hero 6 (Big Hero 6, Big Hero 6: The Series)
33. Marvel Disk Wars: The Avengers
34. Marvel Super Hero Adventures: Frost Fight!
35. Radomski Universe [Guardians of the Galaxy; Spider-Man (2017); Avengers Assemble season 5: Black Panther's Quest]
36. Future Avengers
37. Rocket & Groot
38. Ant-Man
39. Marvel Super Hero Adventures
40. Spider-Verse (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Spider-Ham: Caught in a Ham)
41. Marvel Rising short films/episodes

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 7/06/2021 8:07 am

First post updated. Nothing new added but exact order of next collages added.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 9/04/2021 4:07 pm

Since the animated indie superheroes cartoons will be a five-parter, I won't do a full villains/supporting cast this time around (way too many overly obscure characters for that). However, I'll include a few not-quite superheroes (most or all ruled out as superheroes because they cross moral lines) at the end (and maybe a few interesting supporting characters), using letters instead of numbers to show they're a bit separate. At least seven but I might add more to fill in gaps at the bottom.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/25/2021 12:58 pm

Thinking ahead to plans for an Arrowverse collage (live action), I can do it one of two ways and was wondering people's preferences: I can tackle nearly everybody who hasn't been covered yet, which means a multi-parter and lots of obscure characters, or I can just do single collage for now, focussed more on the most important key characters not yet covered, with a few obscure characters tossed in. What would people prefer? Arrowverse will follow Indie Animated Superheroes part 5.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 11/28/2021 9:23 am

If no one replies, will go ahead with the multi-part option. so if you want a break from the tougher ones, speak now before I finish compiling the character list.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 5/02/2022 6:10 am

Updated the list. Is there interest in the DC Live but not DCU collage for shows/movies based on non-DCU Vertigo characters, Paradox Press characters, etc? If so The Boys updates would probably move from Indie to here, being part of Wildstorm.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 5/20/2022 5:29 pm

I'm really excited about the next DC Live collage series. Aside from characters who did not make the cut the first time from shows and movies where other characters did appear, there will be characters from Watchmen projects, streaming shows, movies about the actors (the DC Uniiverse aspects not the actors themselves), commercials, parody skits.and unauthorized works (some of parody skits and commercials may also be unauthorized but some movie characters for sure). I don't know how easy it will be for people to guess these, but hopefully people will have fun learning of the existence of some of these.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 5/20/2022 5:34 pm

I've compiled most of the list but in order to hunt down additional obscure stuff, I'll wait until Arrowverse part 4 begins to actually start building the first collage (looking like a 3-parter).

There won't be another Arrowverse update in later years but will still see the current set to conclusion; if nothing else it will buy me some time with the above project. I'm determined to find even more obscure stuff.

**Posted by Andy E. Nystrom** 7/22/2023 6:51 am

Currently working on part 6 of the Marvel Live collage (part 5 complete). I will do another Indie Live Superhero collage but before that will do a two-parter focussing on a particular character and their world. Multiple continuities. Can you guess who?

**Posted by zuckyd1** 7/23/2023 7:22 am

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:
Currently working on part 6 of the Marvel Live collage (part 5 complete). I will do another Indie Live Superhero collage but before that will do a two-parter focussing on a particular character and their world. Multiple continuities. Can you guess who?

Doctor Who?