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1/06/2020 9:59 am  #1


Never Been Kissed in the 2000s

I created this thread Jan 5, 2011, 02:59 pm. As I hope to update this from time to time as new Handbook entries trickle in, the rest of the historical text will start in the second post.

This is now being updated at the top of the thread. The old original post is now at the top of the second post in this thread. If there is a plus sign beside an entry name, they’ve been announced for an upcoming Hand

Updated to Empyre Handbook

The following is a list of entries in the 1980s-1990s Handbooks that have not had entries in the 2000s run, though some had entries in the official (i.e. non-DK, etc) Encyclopedias (E) or in the Files (F) books. A=Appendix.

I’m keeping the Roman numerals for historical purposes but adding qualifiers in brackets. I usually won’t bother though if a qualifier is more due to a character introduced later than the Handbook in question.

Marvel Superhero Contest of Champions

This refers to the text section at the back of the issues; while not a Handbook per se, these sections were the prototype for the eventually Handbooks and thus are important from an historical standpoint.

#1
Acroyear (unavailable due to licensing)
Aguila (F)
Blitzkrieg
Comet
Crimson Dynamo [Bukharin]

#2
Karkas
Microtron (Micronaut; unavailable due to licensing)
Nanotron (Micronaut)
Reject
Rom (unavailable due to licensing)

#3
Biotron (Micronaut; unavailable due to licensing)
Crimson Cavalier
Golden Girl [Sabuki]
Human Top [Mitchell]
Scarlet Scarab
Sir Steel and Silver Squire
Crimebuster
Red Raven [robot aspect of entry]
Thunderbolt (F)
American Eagle [Blue Eagle]
Astra (E)
Cap’n Hawk
Centurion
Doctor Spectrum [Ledger]
Earthquake (E)
Firefall [Spaceknights]
Golden Archer
Hobgoblin [Shapeshifter] (E)
Horus
Hussar (E)
Impet
Javelin
Lady Lark
Manta (E)
Mentor [Imperial Guard] (E)
Mercurio
Protector
Recorder
Smasher (E)
Starbolt (E)
Starshine [Spaceknight]
Tempest (E)
Tom Thumb
Whizzer [Stewart]
Combatra (Shogun Warrior; unavailable due to licensing)
Danguard Ace (Shogun Warrior; unavailable due to licensing)
Domo
Human Fly (unavailable due to licensing/real life person)
Iridia
Jann of the Jungle
Karthon the Quester
Murdoch Adams
Raydeen (Shogun Warrior; unavailable due to licensing)
Valkin

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 1)

#1
Aguila (F-A)
Angar the Screamer (E)
Atlanteans (indirectly covered in Atlantis entries)
• Alien Races: A’askvarii, Achernonians, A-Chiltarians, Alpha Centaurians, Arcturans, Astrans, Autocrons
• Appendix: Agent Axis, Agents of Fortune, Aginar, Allatou, Amphibius (E), Ape-Man I-II [Keefer/McVey], Arishem, Astra (E), Autolycus

#2
Belladonna (E)
Blitzkrieg
• Alien Races: Centaurians (F), Centurii, Chr’ylites, Ciegrimites
• Appendix: Balor, Baron Brimstone, Baron Macabre, Baron Samedi, Baxter Building (E), Behemoth, Bird-Man I [Hawk], Black Spectre I-II [Nektra-led/Strange-led], Blockbuster, Blue Bullet, Blue Streak, Bounty Hunter, Brainchild [Mutate] (E), Brain-Child [Sutton], Bres, Brothers Grimm [Doll], Brother Tode, Brutacus, Bulldozer, Burner, Cancer, Cannonball I [Pulver], Capricorn, Cap’n Hawk

#3
Crimson Dynamo [Bukharin]
Daredevil’s Apartment
Daredevil’s Billy Club
Defensor
Doctor Doom’s Castle
Doctor Strange’s Sanctum Sanctorum
• Alien Races: Deonists, Druffs, Elan, Epsiloni, Ergons, Flb’Dbi, Gegku
• Appendix: Captain Wings, Cat-Man I-II [Horgan/Patane], Centurion, Cethlann, Chaka, Chronos, Comet, Condor, Copperhead II [Reynolds], “Crimebuster II” (actually Crime-Master II [Lewis Jr.]), Crimson Cavalier, Crusher, Cyclone (E), Dakimh the Enchanter, Damballah, Dansen Macabre

#4
Elders of the Universe
Europe
The Balkan States
Fantastic Four’s Pogo Plane (E)
Fantasticar (E)
Galactus’s Heralds
Geirrodur
Guardians of the Galaxy’s Starship Freedom’s Lady
• Alien Races: Froma, Glx, Gramosians, Grunds, Guna, Interdites
• Appendix: Discus, Doctor Dorcas, Doctor Spectrum II [Ledger], Domo, Doughboy, Dragon Lord I-III [Sub-Mariner foe/Yu-Ti/Dorn] (I:F/E), Dromedan (E), Earthquake (E), Eel II [Lavell], Elathan, Electron (E), Eliminator, Eon, Equilibrius (E), Eson, Firefall, Firefrost

#5
Hangman [Krueger]
Headmen (E)
Impossible Woman
• Alien Races: Humanoid Aliens, Judans, Kawa, Klklk, Kosmosians (though Kosmos was covered)
• Under Humanoid Aliens above: Arcturans, Earthlings, Galadorians, Kree (White) (unlikely to have separate entry from Kree), Lumina, Myndai, Quiosts, Sirians, Sirusites, Wilameanis, Xandarians (F), Zenn-Lavians (F)
• Appendix: Freakmaster, Freedom’s Five, Frog-Man I [LeBlanc], Gammenon, Garokk the Petrified Man, Gaza (E), Gazela, Ghost Girl, Ghost Rider I-II [Carter/Lincoln Slade], Golden Archer, Golden Girl [Sabuki], Golem II [Goldstein], Gorr (F), Grapplers (E), Gregory Gideon (E), Gronk, Hammer, Hargen, Hawkeye II [McDonald]

#6
Kang’s Time-Ship
Karkas
Knights of Wundagore (I decided to include them because they could be seen as the enforcement arm of the New Men and not the New Men entirely)
Living Monolith
Maelstrom’s Minions
• Alien Races: Krylorians, Kt’kn, Landlaks, Laxidazians, Levians, Makluans, Megans, Mekkans, Mephistisoids
• Appendix: Helio, Hellfire [Elementals], Hidden Races, Hildegarde, Hobgoblin “II” [Shapeshifter] (E), Human Top “II” [Mitchell], Hussar (E), Hydro-Men (E), Hydron, Ikonn, Impulse (E), Indech, Inferno I-II [demon/Conroy], Infra-Worlders, Ion, Iridia, Ironclad, Iron Cross, Jackdaw, Jaguar, Javelin, Jemiah

#7
Manhattan (E)
Man-Thing’s Swamp
Mercurio
Moon Knight’s Helicopter
Moon Knight’s Mansion
• Alien Races: Mobians, Morani, Pegasusians, Pheragots, Procyonites, Procilicans
• Appendix: K’ai, Kamar-Taj, Mamo Tharnn, Kamuu I-II [pre-cataclysm Atlantis ruler/undersea Atlantis founder], Kangaroo [Oliver] (F), Kathon the Quester, Kiber the Cruel, Kid Commandos, Kingo Sunen, Kirigi (E), Lady Lark, Landslide, Lemuriua, Leo, Leonus, Letha, Lifter, Limbo, Live Wire, Living Pharaoh, Locksmith, Lorelei (E), Lupo (E)

#8
• Alien Races: Queega, Rajaks, Reptoids, R’malki’i, Roclites
• Appendix: Madam Slay, Magnum I [Elementals], Man-Brute, Manta (E), Maur-Konn, Mentor I [Imperial Guard] (E), Mentus, Micro (E), Midnight Man, Mirage [Charne] (E), Mister Doll, Mister One and Mister Two, Moonboy

#9
Rangers
Recorder
Rom (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Savage Land and Pangea (only Pangea not yet covered)
Scarlet Scarab
• Alien Races: R’zahn, Sarks, Saurids, Siris, Sligs, Sm’ggani, Solons
• Appendix: Mutant Master, Naga, Nameless One (E), National Force, Netherworld, Nezarr, Night Rider I-II [Carter/Lincoln], Nightside (E), Norns, Nova-Prime, Nuke, Nut, Olympia, Omega I [Maximus creation] (E), One Above All, Oneg, Orikal, Ox I-III [I-II Raymond, III Ronald] (III: E), Pangea, Phantom Eagle, Piledriver, Piper (E), Pisces, Plague (E), Possessor

#10
S.H.I.E.L.D. Uniforms
S.H.I.E.L.D. Flying Car
Soviet Super-Soldiers
Spider-Man’s Web-Shooters (E; covered pretty extensively under Spider-Man though)
Star-Dancer
• Alien Races: Sneepers, Sssth, Stenth, Stonians, Taurians, Tektons, Thuvrians
• Appendix: Power Prism, Primus (E), GREEN Radion the Atomic Man (E), Rainbow, Ransak the Reject, Red Raven (death only) [robot], Red Ronin (F), Rocketeers I-II [Daredevil foes/Dire Wraiths], Sagittarius, Sayge, Scarlet Scarab I, Scimitar, Scorpio I/III (it’s debatable though whether I or III are in fact II/Jacob Fury) [from Shield#1 and Avenges#120]

#11
Subterraneans
Tatterdemalion
Thor’s Hammer
Titan
Ulik
• Alien Races: Tsiln, Tsyrani, Ul’lula’ns, Vegans, Vrellnexians, Xantareans
• Appendix: Senor Muerte/Senor Suerte I-II [Ramon/Jaime & Philip], Serpent-Men, Shocker II [Mutant Force], Sigmar, Sigyn, Silver Squire, Sir Steel, Sise-Neg, Sligguth, Slither, Smasher (E), Snowfall, Sons of Satannish, Sphinxor, Spinnerette (E), Stallior, Starbolt (E), Starcore, Starshine I-II [Landra/Clark], Star Stalker, Stygyro, SULTAN, Supernalia

#12
Wakanda (Atlas entry but not a Handbook format entry)
Central Wakanda
Watchers (as a group)
X-Men Jet (E)
• Alien Races: Xantha, Xeronians, Yirbek, Yrds
• Appendix: Taurus, Tefral, Terminator, Tethlam, THEM, Therea, Thermo, Thunderbolt (F), Thunderfist, Timberius, Titan (E), Tommy Lightning, Tom Thumb, Torpedo I-II [assassin/Stivaks], Trapper, Tundra, Uni-Mind, Unseen, Uranians, Vakume, Valkin, Vaporr, Vector, Veritas, Vertigo I-II [Salem’s 7/Mutate] (II: E), Vibranium, Viper I [Stryke], Virgo, Whizzer “III” [“Arnold”, actually Stewart], Windeagle, Wundagore I-II [unclear], X-Ray, Zartra I-II, [Lemurian/undersea Atlantis empress], Zuras

#13
Freedom’s Five
Kid Commandos
Death in the Marvel Universe (note: part of the entry talked about the entity, but part of it tackled it more as a concept, hence my including it)

#14
Phantom Eagle
Red Raven (death only) [robot]
Thunderbolt
After Death in the Marvel Universe

#15 (Note: for most of the entries in this book, the trend is more to fold the entries into the related broader entries, so most of these will likely never have a separate entry in the 2000s)
Ant-Man’s Helmet
Blacklash’s Whip
Black Widow’s Widow Line
Book of the Vishanti (A)
Captain America’s Motorcycle
Captain America’s Shield
Cyclops’s Visor
Deathlok’s Gun
Deathlok’s Bionic System
Doctor Doom’s Armor
Doctor Octopus’s Arms
Doctor Strange’s Amulet
Dragonfang (except as sub-entry)
Falcon’s Wings
Fantastic Four Signal Device
Hobgoblin’s Bat-Glider
Iron Man’s Briefcase
Iron Man’s Armor
Iron Man’s Helmet
Klaw’s Blaster
Machine Man’s Bionic Systems
Mandarin’s Rings
Mockingbird’s Battle-Staves
Moon Knight’s Crescent-Darts
Moon Knight’s Truncheon
Odin’s Spear
Orb of Agamotto (except as sub-entry)
Paladin’s Gun
Psycho-Man’s Control Box
Quasar’s Wrist Bands
Ringmaster’s Hat
Rom’s Armor (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Rom’s Analyzer (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Rom’s Neutralizer (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Rom’s Translator (no longer licensed to Marvel)
SHIELD Guns
Silver Surfer’s Surfboard
Spider-Man’s Belt-Camera
Stilt-Man’s Battle Suit
Wizard’s Helmet, Power-Gloves, and Anti-Grav Discs
Wolverine’s Skeleton
Wonder Man’s Jet-Belt
Wrecker’s Crowbar
Vibranium

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 2) Deluxe Edition

For this series equipment that’s folded into broader entries is ignored as that’s a conceit of the modern volumes as well. However, equipment with its own distinct entry will be treated separately.

¼ page sub-entries: If the main entry isn’t covered, the format will be [main entry]; also [sub-entries]. If the main entry is covered, the format will be [main entry]: [sub-entries]. If the sub-entries are covered but not the main entry, only the main entry will be listed. I’m only counting ¼ pagers that list more than first appearances. For ¼ pagers, Roman numerals only clarified if not obvious from their group affiliation. I doubt anyone thinks that Ned Leeds was a member of Shi’ar’s Imperial Guard.

#1
Aguila (F-A)
Angar the Screamer (E)
Asgardians: Idunn, Volla, Hermod, Hoder, Sigyn, Frey
Atlanteans
Avengers Compound
Batroc’s Brigade

#2
Box I [Bochs]
Captain America’s Hotline
Captain America’s Motorcycle
Captain America’s Van
Circus of Crime: Strongman, Fire-Eater, Great Gambonnos, Human Cannonball, Live Wire

#3
Cottonmouth
Crimson Dynamo
Cybele
Death-Throws; also Ringleader, Bombshell, Tenpin
Doctor Doom’s Castle

#4
Doctor Strange’s Sanctum Sanctorum
Eel II [Lavell]
Elders of the Universe
Energizer
Enforcers: Fancy Dan, Ox I-II [Raymond/Ronald], Montana, Snake Marston, Hammer Harrison
Fenris Wolf
Galactus’s Heralds

#5
Geirrodur
Glamor
Gods
Grapplers (E)
Heliopolis (though its gods have been covered); also Osiris, Isis, Geb, Nut
Hellions: Roulette (E), Jetstream (E), Tarot (E), Catseye (E)
• Appendix: Alternate Dimensions

#6
Hydro-Base
Illusion
Imperial Guard: Electron (E), Mentor (E), Hobgoblin [Shapeshifter] (E), Starbolt (E), Smasher (E),
Impulse (E), Titan (E), Midget (E), Nightside (E), Astra (E), Magic (E), Manta (E),
Hussar (E), Earthquake (E)
Impossible Man and Impossible Woman (latter)
Inhumans: Seeker, Falcona, Leonus, Stallior, Timberius
Kangaroo [Oliver] (F)
Karkas
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Alfheim, Alter-Earth, “Ankh” Dimension, Astral Realm of Morgan Le Fey, Avalon, Badlands, Bast, Beliath, Beyond, Biphasia, The Black Sea, Citadel of Silence, Crimson Cosmos, Crystalium

#7
Khoryphos
Kofi
Lemuria (only in Atlas format, not Handbook)
Maelstrom’s Minions; also Gronk, Phobius, Helio
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also The Dark Dimension, Dark Realm of the Fomor, Death Dimension, Demon Realm, Dimension Z, Dimension Zero, Dinosaur World, Dream Dimension, Duckworld, Earth-Squadron

#8
Magus
Manhattan (E)
Man-Thing’s Swamp
Massachusetts Academy
Mass Master
Mayhem (F-A)
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Feng-Tu, “Fifth Dimension”, Flatworld, “Fourth Dimension”, Fragmnted America, The Gorge, Hades, The Halls of Fear, Hel, Heliopolis, Hell

#9
Morlocks: Annalee (E), Ape (E), Beautiful Dreamer (E), Erg (E), Healer (E), Piper (E),
Plague (E), Tar Baby (E)
Mutant Force; also Burner, Lifter, Shocker, Slither
Mass Master (fixing printing error in previous issue)
Mayhem (F-A) (fixing printing error in previous issue)
Olympia
Olympian Gods: Vesta
Olympus
Omega Flight: Jerry Jaxon, Flashback, Delphine Courtney
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Hulk-Worlds, Ice World of Ikthalon, Jakar’s World, Jotunheim, Kaa (F), Katharta, Kingdom of Tazza

#10
Phastos
Possessor
Power Broker, Inc.
Primus (E)
Rattler
Red Ronin (F)
Reject
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Kismet, Kobar, Land of Shades, Land Within, Light Dimension, Limbo (True), Limbo-Belasco, Limbo-Rom, Lockjaw’s Food World, Luminia, Kahkos and Elysia, Megrim, Netherworld of Eternal Doom

#11
Rom (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Savage Land Mutates: Amphius (E), Brainchild (E), Gaza (E), Equilibrius (E), Lorelei (E), Lupo (E), Piper (E)
Scourge ["Collier", as opposed to the group as a whole]
Serpent Society Headquarters
SHIELD Uniforms
SHIELD Flying Car
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Netherworld of Gulgol, Nirvana, Olympus, Ort-Beast, Other-Earth, Other Realm, Otherwhere, Phaseword, Planes of Pohldark

#12
Sinister Syndicate (E)
Smartship Friday
Sons of the Tiger: Brown, Abraham; Diamond, Robert; Sun, Lin; Shinchuko, Lotus
Soviet Super-Soldiers
Squadron Supreme: Whizzer, Doctor Spectrum, Black Archer, Tom Thumb, Blue Eagle, Lady Lark, Arcanna, Nuke, Ape X, Dr. Decibel, Foxfire, Lamprey, Quagmire, Shape, Redstone, Moonglow, Thermite, Haywire, Inertia
Stane International
Subterraneans
Sunder (E)
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Planets Perilous, Polemachus, Purple Dimension, Quadriverse, Quarl, Quasi-Universe, Rammatpolen, Realm of the Beasts, Realm of Madness, Realm of Nothingness, Realm of the Shadows, Realm of the Undying Ones, “Reverse Dimension”, Rome-World

#13
Tatterdemalion
Thunderiders; also Honcho, Wolf, R. U. Reddy, Wrench, Cowboy, Georgianna
Titan
Tower
U-Foes: Vector, Vapor, X-Ray, Ironclad
Ulik
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Runestaff Dimension, S’ahra-Sharn, Saku, Sandt, Shadow Realm

#14
Uni-Mind
Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation
The Vault
Vibranium
Wakanda (Atlas entry but not handbook entry)
Watchers
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Shazana’s Realm, “Sixth Dimension”, Slaveworld, Sominus, Spotworld, Stormworld, Sub-Atomica, Sub-Space, Tagak’s World, Ta-Lo, Terragonia, Therea, Tunnelworld, The Un-Place

#15
Wundagore
X-Men Jet
• Appendix: Alien Races; also A’askvarii, Achernonians, A-Chiltarians, Alpha Centaurians, Arcturans, Astrans, Autocrons, Betans, Centaurians (F), Centurii, Chr’ylites, Ciegrimites, Clavians, Contraxians, Courga, Darbians, Deonists, Druffs, Elan, Entemen, Ergons, Flb’Dbi, Fonabi, Galadorians, Gegku, Glx, Gramosians, Grunds, Guna, Herms, Hibers, Hujah, Interdites, Judans, Kamado, Kawa, Klklk, Kodabaks, Kobinites (F), Kosmosians (though Kosmos was covered), Krylorians, Kt’kn, Kymellians, Landlaks, Laxidazians, Lem, Levians, Lumina, Makluans, Mandos, Megans, Mekkans, Mephistisoids, M’ndavians, Mobians, Morani, Myndai, Nanda, Nymenians, Pegasusians, Pheragots, Poppupians, Procyonites, Queega, Quists, Rajaks, Reptoids, R’malki’I, Roclites, R’zahnians, Sarks, Saurids, Sirians, Siris, Sligs, Sm’ggani, Solons, Sneepers, Sssth, Stenth, Stonians, Taurians, Technarchy, Tektons, Thuvrians, Tribunals, Tsiln, Tsyrani, Ul’lula’ns, Vegans, Vrellnexians, Wilameanis, Wobbs, Xantareans, Xantha, Xeronians, Xixix, Yirbek, Yrds, Zeen-Lavians (F), Zundamites
• Appendix: Other Dimensions; also What If? Worlds, Zaar

#16
Ani-Men: Ape-Man I-II [Keefer/McVey], Cat-Man I-II [Horgan/Patane], Frog-Man I [LeBlanc], Bird-Man I-II [Hawk/DiBacco]
Blue Streak
Century, Turner D.
Champions of Xandar: Nova-Prime, Protector, Comet, Crimebuster
Cheetah
Cyclone (E)
Damian, Margo
Strength Levels in the Known Marvel Universe

#17
Dorcas, Dr. Lemuel
Hammer and Anvil
Hangman [Krueger]
Hobgoblin “I” [Leeds parts only] (E)
Alphabetical List of Marvel’s Publications with Series Set in the Marvel Universe

#18
Imperial Hydra
Kiber the Cruel
Letha
Living Monolith
Marauders: Blockbuster (E), Riptide (E), Prism (E)
Mauler I [Soames]
Mirage I [Charne] (E)
Morlocks: Annalee (E), Blow-Hard (E), Cybelle (E), Scaleface (E), Tommy (E)
Alphabetical List of Marvel’s Publications with Series Set in the Marvel Universe

#19
Nuke [Gaines]
Phantom Eagle
Phantom Rider I
Red Raven (death only) [robot]
Salem’s Seven: Brutacus, Gazelle, Hydron, Reptilla, Thornn, Vakume, Vertigo I
Savage Land Races; also Aerians, Fall People, Lemurans, Man-Apes, Pterons, Sun People, Swamp Men, Tree People, Zebra People
Sawyer, General Sam
Scourge’s Victims

#20
Storm, Franklin (E)
Thumb, Tom
Thunderbolt (F)
Vampires: Lianda, Blade Doppleganger
Van Lunt, Cornelius
Viper I [Stryke]
Whitemane, Aelfyre
Zodiac I: Aquarius I-II [Bentley/Drebb], Aries I-III [Lassiter/Raymond/successor], Cancer, Capricorn, Gemini, Leo, Pisces, Sagittarius, Virgo
Zuras

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe trade paperback series.

Only covering this for characters not in Deluxe Edition, which this series is primarily a collection of:

#3
Headmen (E)

#5
Power Broker

#8
Zodiac [all android; if Roman numerals, I first fought Defenders, II first fought West Coast Avengers]: Aquarius, Aries I-II, Cancer, Capricorn II, Gemini, Leo I-II, Libra, Pisces II, Sagittarius I-II, Taurus I-II, Virgo II

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 3 II) – Update ‘89

Same ¼-page rule as Deluxe.

#1
Adversary (E)
Alliance of Evil; also Stinger, Timeshadow
Ammo
Ani-Mator
Apocalypse’s Horsemen (E); also Famine, War
Arcanna
Arclight (E)
Astronomer
Beyonders
Bullet (E)

#2
Chance I [Powell] (E)
Commission (F)
Dean, Laura
Doctor Spectrum I [Ledger]
Dominus [computer]
Dominus’s Minions
Earth Force; also Earth Lord, Wind Warrior

#3
Eon
Fallen Angels
Fasaud (E)
Foreigner (E)

Four Freedoms Plaza (E)
Garokk the Petrified Man
Gateway (E/F)
Giants of Jotunheim
Goblyn
Gomi (F-A)
Gosamyr
Great Beasts
Grog the God-Slayer
Halflife
Harpoon (E)
Headlok
Headmen (E)

#4
Infectia
Jade Dragon
Killraven’s Freemen: Frost, Carmilla; Old Skull; M’Shulla
Kubik (debatable since there is a Cosmic Cube entry)
Left-Winger
Lobo, Carlos
Mackenzie, Al
Madame Hydra [Six]
Maison Alpha
Manikin

#5
Master Menace
Master Mold
Max
Mongoose
Naga
Neville, Kate
Night Shift: Misfit, Needle, Digger, Dansen Macabre, Ticktock
Numinus
Persuasion
Pierce, Alexander Goodwin
Plasma
Power, Dr. James
Power, Margaret

#6
Quantum
Right
Right-Winger
Scrambler (E)
Serpent Society: Black Racer, Boomslang, Coachwhip, Puff Adder, Rock Python

#7
Shadowmasters (E)
Silver
Sisters of Sin
Spellbinder (F-A)
Spyder
Sundragon
Super Sabre
Supreme Soviets
Tarr, Black Jack
Trader

#8
Vertigo (E)
Whiteout
Whizzer II [Stewart]
Wildboys (E)
Wiz Kid
Wolfpack
Worm
X-Terminators

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (Vol. 3 II) Master Edition

As noted above, both this series and Update ’89 were treated as vol. 3 in the indica. For Supporting Cast listings I’ve also included the sub-listings. Note that some of Spider-Man’s supporting cast have had sub-entries in the newer Supporting Cast listing, but if listed here haven’t had their own entry

#1
Counterweight
Foxfire
Oneg the Prober
Zuras

#2
Eel II [Lavell]
Kubik (debatable since there is a Cosmic Cube entry)
Rock Python
Sise-Neg

#3
Naga
Sunder (E)
Whizzer II [Stewart]

#4
Hammer
Red Raven (death only) [robot]
Shape
Vector
Ziran the Tester

#5
Crimson Dynamo III-VI [Nevsky/Petrovich/Bukharion/Shatalov] (Note: the armor’s been covered but the Masters entry was more focussed on the individual wearers, complete with vital statistics for each; only Vanko and Turgenov, in Legacy 1960s fit that description in the 2000s)
Sleeper (there’s been a Sleepers entry but this is the 4th one specifically)

#6
Astronomer
Gatecrasher
Hobgoblin “I” [Leeds]
One Above All
Vertigo (E)

#7
Hangman [Krueger]
Mercurio
Red Ronin (E)
Ulik
Valkin

#8
Lamprey
Piledriver

#9
Brother Tode
Isis
Phantom Eagle

#10
X-Ray

#11
Balor
Crucible
Lupo (E)
Nezarr the Calculator

#12
Aguila (F-A)
Helio
Piper [Mutate] (E)
Puff Adder
Taurus
Whiplash II [Femme Fatales]

#13
Bullet (E)
Fer-de-Lance
Mad Dog
Spider-Man’s Supporting Cast: Lance Bannon (E), Katherine “Kate” Cushing (E), Joy Mercado (E)

#14
Captain American’s Supporting Cast
Eon
Jetstream (E)
Mongoose
Super Sabre
Uni-Mind

#15
Garokk the Petrified Man
Ghost Rider’s Supporting Cast; also Barbara Ketch, Francis Ketch, Stacy Dolan, Captain Arthur Dolan, Jack d’Auria, Linda Wei, Pauline Stratton
Moonglow I-II [Hanover/Jones]

#16
Jemiah the Analyzer
Kofi
Stallior
Tatterdemalion
Wolverine’s Supporting Cast

#17
Eson the Searcher
Punisher’s Arsenal
Worm

#18
Arishem the Judge
Bulldozer
Ironclad
Kangaroo [Oliver]
She-Hulk’s Supporting Cast; also Morris Walters, Blake Tower (E), Garth, Dan “Zapper” Ridge

#19
Daredevil’s Supporting Cast; also Jonathan “Battling Jack” Murdock (E)
Earth-Lord
Tom Thumb
Ultimus

#20
Captain Atlas
Nuke I [Gaines]
Quantum
Redstone

#21
Haywire
Karkas
Power Broker

#22
Gammenon the Gatherer
Slither
Starbolt (E)

#23
Doctor Spectrum
Left-Winger
Supremor

#24
Ape-Man I-II [Keefer/McVey]
Cyclone
Trump

#25
Cottonmouth II [Serpent Society]
Mirage I [Charne] (E)
Osiris
Quagmire
Wind Warrior

#26
Aginar
Foreigner (E)
Halflife I [Graviton’s team]
Rattler
Titan

#27
Anvil
Cat-Man I-II [Horgan/Patane]
Electron (E)
Foolikiller II [Salinger] (E)
Needle

#28
Aron the Rogue Watcher (E)
Possessor

#29
Occulus (E)
Talon

#30
Chord
Impala
Nobilus
Snowblind
X-Men’s Supporting Cast; also Warren K. Worthington, Jr.; Kathryn Worthington; Norton McCoy; Edna Andrews McCoy; Ted Roberts; William Robert Blake

#31
Blue Eagle
Gronk
Hussar (E)
Living Monolith (E)
Quill
X-Men’s Supporting Cast; also Madelaine Beatrice Drake; Elizabeth “Betsy” Wilford; Dr. Peter Corbeau

#32
Analyzer
Bird-Man I-II [Hawk/DiBacco]
Doughboy
Famine
Harriers
Ion
Senor Muerte I-II [Ramon/ Philip; also Suerte II/\Jaime]
Shapeshifter (E)

#33
Black Archer
Crippler (F-A)
Gideon (F)
Inertia
Rancor

#34
Frog-Man I [LeBlanc]
Replica

#35
Doom 2099 (E)
Fearmaster
Shotgun (E)
Specialist
Spirit of Vengeance

#36
Ajax
Chance I [Powell] (E)
Evilhawk
Hardcore
Savage Steel (F-A)

Avengers Log

Edwin Jarvis and the Avengers Crew (Crew only)
Aries I [Lassiter]
Assassin II [Maria]
Balor
Bloodhawk I [bird-like Avengers foe]
Brain-Child [Sutton]
Bres
Brutus
Butte
Cactus
Captain Atlas
Combine
Commissar
Defiler
Dominus I [computer]
Gila
Halflife I [Gravitoin’s team]
Headlok
Heavy Metal
Inferno II [Conroy]
Keeper of the Flame
Kubik (debatable since there is a Cosmic Cube entry)
Living Bombs
Lloigoroth
Manipulator I-II [robot/Conclave]
Minotaur I [Subterranean]
Monsieur Khrull
Ngh the Unspeakable
People’s Protectorate
Phantom Rider I/III [Carter/Lincoln]
Priests of Pama
Prometheus I [Titan]
Pyron the Thermal Man
Quantum
Rangers
Red Guardian V [Petkus]
Red Ronin (F)
Shadowlord
Split-Second Squad
Star-Stalker
Stinger II [businessman]
Subterraneans
Supernalia
Surge I [Ramskov]
Surtur
Svyatogor
Sybil Dorn
Taifu
Taurus I [Van Lunt]
Tetrarchs of Entropy
Thane Ector
Titanic Three
Troglodytes
Weathermen
Yetrigar
Zvezda Dennista

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Re: Never Been Kissed in the 2000s

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Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 5, 2011, 06:59 pm


Note: I've merged the material from the first two posts here so I can use the first post to maintain the list while still keeping the historical original post for comparison sake:

Hope this thread doesn’t get merged with others because I’ll be covering a lot of ground here and hopefully shortening these lists every so often. Thought it might be fun to make a list of those characters from various Handbooks who have not yet been touched in the 2000s or if so, in Files (F) or Encyclopedias (E) only. I’m generally sticking to how they were listed in the old books, with clarifications as needed, hence the use of Roman numerals. In the interest of ensuring no one gets overlooked, I reference characters whenever they appear in the old handbooks, so some characters will invariably be listed multiple times (due to different names and different handbook series)

<b>Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 1)</b>

#1
Aguila (F)
Angar the Screamer (E)
Asgard
Atlanteans (indirectly covered in Atlantis entries)
Alien Races: A’Askvarii, Achernonians, A-Chiltarians, Alpha Centaurians, Arcturans, Astrans, Autocrons
Appendix: Adonis, Agent Axis, Agents of Fortune, Aginar, Agron, Aireo, Allatou, Ameridroid, Amphibius (E), Animus, Ape-Man I-II, Arishem, Astra (E), Autolycus

#2
Belladonna (E)
Blitzkrieg
Charlie-27
Alien Races: Ba-Babi, Centaurians (F), Centurii, Chr’ylites, Ciegrimites
Appendix: Balor, Baron Blood, Baron Brimstone, Baron Macabre, Baron Samedi, Baxter Building (E), Behemoth, Bird-Man I, Black Knight II, Black Spectre I-II, Blackworld, Blockbuster, Blue Area of the Moon, Blue Bullet, Blue Streak, Bounty Hunter, Brainchild (E), Brain-Child, Brain Drain, Bres, Brothers Grimm (this refers to the Nathan Doll version), Brother Tode, Brutacus, Bucky II, Bulldozer, Burner, Bushman, Byrrah, Cancer, Cannonball I, Capricorn, Captain Barracuda (E), Cap’n Hawk

#3
Crimson Dynamo (the entry was specifically for Bukharin)
Daredevil’s Apartment
Daredevil’s Billy Club
Defensor
Doctor Doom’s Castle
Doctor Strange’s Sanctum Sanctorum
Alien Races: Deonists, Druffs, Elan, Epsiloni, Ergons, Flb’Dbi, Gegku
Appendix: Captain Wings, Cat-Man, Cat People (E), Centurion, Cethlann, Chaka, Ch’od, Chronos, Comet, Condor, Copperhead II, Corsair (E), “Crimebuster II” (actually Crime-Master II), Crimson Cavalier, Crusader (since he’s now known *not* to be Marvel Boy), Crusher, Cyclone, Dakimh the Enchanter, Damballah, Dansen Macabre, Darkoth (E), Destroyer II (E)

#4
Elders of the Universe
Europe
The Balkan States
Fantastic Four’s Pogo Plane (E)
Fantasticar (E)
Fantastic Four Headquarters
(It’s interesting to note that the FF themselves got less than half a page, compared to the Pogo Plane, just over ½ a page; the Fantasticar, 1 page; and Fantastic Four Headquarters, 2 pages)
Galactus’s Heralds
Geirrodur
Guardians of the Galaxy’s Starship Freedom’s Lady
Alien Races: Fomalhauti, Froma, Glx, Gramosians, Grunds, Guna, Interdites
Appendix: Discus, Doctor Dorcas, Doctor Spectrum I-II, Doctor Sun (E), Domo, Doughboy, Dragon Lord I-III (I:F/E), Dromedan (E), Earthquake (E), Ebon Seeker (E), Eel I-II (II: E), Elathan, Electron (E), Eliminator, Enchanters, Eon, Equilibrius (E), Eson, Fang (E), Firefall, Firefrost

#5
Headmen (E)
Impossible Woman
Genealogy of the House of Agon (unlikely to get its own entry now)
Alien Races: Humanoid Aliens, Judans, Kallusians, Kawa, Klklk, Kosmosians (though Kosmos was just covered), Kronans
Under Humanoid Aliens above: Arcturans, Earthlings, Galadorians, Kree (White) (unlikely to have separate entry from Kree), Lumina, Myndai, Quiosts, Sirians, Sirusites, Wilameanis, Xandarians (F), Zenn-Lavians (F)
Appendix: Foolkiller II (E), Freakmaster, Freedom’s Five, Frog-Man I, Futurist (E), Gammenon, Garokk the Petrified Man, Gaza (E), Gazela, Ghost Girl, Ghost Rider I-II, Golden Archer, Golden Girl, Golem II, Gorr (F), Grapplers (E), Green Goblin III, Gregory Gideon (E), Gronk, Hammer, Hargen, Hawkeye II (same character as Golden Archer above)

#6
Kang’s Time-Ship
Karnak (E)
Karkas
Karnilla
Knights of Wundagore
Living Monolith
Maelstrom’s Minions
Alien Races: Kryloans, Kt’kn, Landlaks, Laxidazians, Levians, Makluans, Megans, Mekkans, Mephistisoids
Appendix: Hecate, Helio, Hellfire (I'll have to doublecheck but I don't think the one newly covered is the Elemental), Hellrazor, Hidden Races, Hildegarde, Hobgoblin II (E) (actually he came first), Human Top II, Hussar (E), Hydro-Men (E), Hydron, Ikonn, Impulse (E), Indech, Inferno I-II, Infra-Worlders, Ion, Iridia, Ironclad, Iron Cross, Jackdaw, Jaguar, Javelin, Jemiah

#7
Manhattan (E)
Man-Thing’s Swamp
Mercurio
Moon Knight’s Helicopter
Moon Knight’s Mansion
Morpheus
Alien Races: Mobians, Morani, Ovoids, Pegasusians, Pheragots, Procyonites, Procilicans
Appendix: K’ai, Kamar-Taj, Kamo Tharnn, Kamuu I-II, Kathon the Quester, Kiber the Cruel, Kid Commandos, Kingo Sunen, Kirigi (E), Kukulcan, Lady Lark, Landslide, Lemuria, Leo, Leonus, Letha, Lifter, Limbo, Live Wire, Living Pharaoh, Locksmith, Lorelei (E), Lupo (E)

#8
Nikki
Professor Power (E)
Alien Races: Queega, Rajaks, Reptoids, Rhunians, R’malki’I, Roclites
Appendix: Madam Slay, Magnum I, Man-Brute, Mangog, Manta (E), Maur-Konn, Mentor I (E), Mentus, Micro (E), Midnight Man, Mimir, Miracle Man (E), Mirage (E), Mister Doll, Mister One and Mister Two, Moonboy, Moonstone I

To be continued...

Clarification note re: above: an argument could be made that Knights of Wundagore = New Men, but I decided to include them anyway in that they could be seen as the enforcement arm of the New Men and not the New Men entirely

#9
Rangers
Recorder
Rom (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Savage Land and Pangea (only Pangea not yet covered)
Scarlet Scarab
Alien Races: R’zahn, Sagittarians, Sarks, Saurids, Siris, Slkigs, Sm’ggani, Solons
Appendix: Mutant Master, Naga, Nameless One (E), National Force, Nebulo, Netherworld, Nezarr, Nighthawk II (listed as Nighthawk I in other sources), Night Rider I-II, Nightside (E), Norns, Nova-Prime, Nuke, Nuklo, Null the Living Darkness, Nut, Olympia, Omega I (E), One Above All, Oneg, Orikal, Ox I-III (III: E; Ox I & II really the same character), Pangea, Peeper, Phantom Eagle, Piledriver, Piper (E), Pisces, Plague (E), Poltergeist, Possessor, Powerhouse

#10
S.H.I.E.L.D. Uniforms
S.H.I.E.L.D. Flying Car
Sidewinder
Solarr
Soviet Super-Soldiers
Spider-Man’s Web-Shooters (E; covered pretty extensively under Spider-Man though)
Star-Dancer
Alien Races: Sneepers, Sssth, Stenth, Stonians, Taurians, Tektons, Thuvrians
Appendix: Power Prism, Primus (E), Prowler II, Radion the Atomic Man (E), Rainbow, Ransak the Reject, Red Raven (only the “dead” robot not covered), Red Ronin (F), Rocketeers I-II, Sagittarius, Sayge, Scarlet Scarab I, Scimitar, Scorpio I/III (it’s debatable though whether I or III are in fact II./Jacob Fury)

#11
Subterraneans
Surtur
Tatterdemalion
Thor’s Hammer
Titan
Triton (E)
Ulik
Alien Races: Tsiln, Tsyrani, Ul’lula’ns, Vegans, Vorms, Vrellnexians, Xantareans
Appendix: Senor Muerte/Senor Suerte I-II, Serpent Crown (beyond appendix), Serpent-Men, Shellshock (E), Shocker II, Shrunken Bones, Sigmar, Sigyn, Silver Squire, Sir Steel, Sise-Neg, Sligguth, Slither, Smasher (E), Snowfall, Sons of Satannish, Sphinxor, Spinnerette (E), Stallior, Starbolt (E), Starcore, Starshine I-II, Star Stalker, Stygyro, SULTAN, Supernalia

#12
Vanguard
Wakanda (Atlas entry but not a Handbook format entry)
Central Wakanda
Watchers (as a group)
Wrecker
X-Men Mansion (E)
X-Men Jet (E)
Alien Races: Xantha, Xeronians, Yirbek, Yrds
Appendix: Taurus, Tefral, Tempus, Terminator, Tethlam, THEM, Therea, Thermo, Thunderball, Thunderbolt (F), Thunderfist, Timberius, Titan (E), Tomazooma (E), Tommy Lightning, Tom Thumb, Torpedo I-III (III: E), Trapper, Tundra, Tutinax the Mountain-Mover, Tyr, Uni-Mind, Unseen, Uranians, Vakume, Valkin, Valkyrior, Vamp, Vaporr, Vector, Veritas, Vertigo I-II (II: E), Vibranium, Viper I, Virgo, Warrior Woman, Warstar, Whizzer III, Windeagle, Wundagore I-II, Xemu, X-Ray, Zaladane (E), Zartra I-II, Zuras

(Yay! No more tiny print Appendix entries to wade through!)

#13
Darkoth
Green Goblin (III only)
Freedom’s Five
Kid Commandos
Death in the Marvel Universe (note: part of the entry talked about the entity, but part of it tackled it more as a concept, hence my including it)

#14
Phantom Eagle
Red Raven (only the parts referring to his “death”, which belong to the robot)
Thunderbolt
Torpedo (E)
Zuras
After Death in the Marvel Universe

#15 (Note: for most of the entries in this book, the trend is more to fold the entries into the related broader entries, so most of these will likely never have a separate entry in the 2000s, as separate entries would be redundant)
Ant-Man’s Helmet
Blacklash’s Whip
Black Widow’s Widow Line
Book of the Vishanti (beyond an Appendix entry)
Captain America’s Motorcycle
Captain America’s Shield
Cyclops’s Visor
Deathlok’s Gun
Deathlok’s Bionic System
Doctor Doom’s Armor
Doctor Octopus’s Arms
Doctor Spectrum’s Power Prism
Doctor Strange’s Amulet
Dragonfang (except as sub-entry)
The Evil Eye (except as sub-entry)
Falcon’s Wings
Fantastic Four Signal Device
Hawkeye’s Skycycle
Hawkeye’s Quiver and Bows
Hobgoblin’s Bat-Glider
Iron Man’s Briefcase
Iron Man’s Armor
Iron Man’s Helmet
Klaw’s Blaster
Machine Man’s Bionic Systems
Mandarin’s Rings
Mockingbird’s Battle-Staves
Moon Knight’s Crescent-Darts
Moon Knight’s Truncheon
Odin’s Spear
Orb of Agamotto (except as sub-entry)
Paladin’s Gun
Psycho-Man’s Control Box
Quasar’s Wrist Bands
Ringmaster’s Hat
Rom’s Armor (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Rom’s Analyzer (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Rom’s Neutralizer (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Rom’s Translator (no longer licensed to Marvel)
SHIELD Guns
Silver Surfer’s Surfboard
Spider-Man’s Belt-Camera
Stilt-Man’s Battle Suit
Wizard’s Helmet, Power-Gloves, and Anti-Grav Discs
Wolverine’s Skeleton
Wonder Man’s Jet-Belt
Wrecker’s Crowbar
Vibranium

Up next: Deluxe Edition!




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 5, 2011, 08:04 pm

v1 corrections: Scratch Warstar in #12 but add Karkas to #6. Also note that Whizzer III is generally now considered to be Whizzer II


<b>Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 2) Deluxe Edition</b>

For this series equipment that’s folded into broader entries is ignored as that’s a conceit of the modern volumes as well. However, equipment with its own distinct entry will be treated separately.

¼ page sub-entries: If the main entry isn’t covered, the format will be [main entry]; also [sub-entries]. If the main entry is covered, the format will be [main entry]: [sub-entries]. If the sub-entries are covered but not the main entry, only the main entry will be listed. I’m only counting ¼ pagers that list more than first appearances.

#1
Aguila (F; appendix only)
Andromeda
Angar the Screamer (E)
Asgard
Asgard: The Nine Worlds
Asgard: The Continent
Asgardians: Tyr, Frigga, Idunn, Volla, Hermod, Hoder, Sigyn, Frey, Vidar
Atlanteans
Avengers Compound
Batroc’s Brigade

#2
Box (I-II)
Captain America’s Hotline
Captain America’s Motorcycle
Captain America’s Van
Chief Examiner
Circus of Crime: Strongman, Fire-Eater, Great Gambonnos, Human Cannonball, Live Wire

#3
Cloud
Cottonmouth
Crimson Dynamo
Cybele
Death-Throws; also Ringleader, Oddball, Bombshell, Tenpin
Doctor Doom’s Castle

#4
Doctor Strange’s Sanctum Sanctorum
Eel I-II (I: E)
Elders of the Universe
Energizer
Enforcers: Fancy Dan, Ox I-II, Montana, Snake Marston, Hammer Harrison
Fenris Wolf
Foolkiller
Galactus’s Heralds

#5
Gee (F appendix)
Geirrodur
Glamor
Gods
Grapplers (E)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Charlie-27, Nikki
Hawkeye’s Sky-Cycle
Heliopolis (though its gods have been covered); also Osiris, Isis, Geb, Nut
Hellions: Roulette (E), Jetstream (E), Tarot (E), Catseye (E)
Appendix: Alternate Dimensions

#6
Hydro-Base
Illusion
Imperial Guard: Electron (E), Mentor (E), Hobgoblin (E), Starbolt (E), Smasher (E), Impulse (E), Titan (E), Midget (E), Nightside (E), Astra (E), Magic (E), Manta (E), Hussar (E), Earthquake (E)
Impossible Man and Impossible Woman (latter)
Inhumans: Seeker, Aireo, Falcona, Leonus, Stallior, Timberius
Interloper
Karkas
Karnak (E)
Karnilla
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Alfheim, Alter-Earth, “Ankh” Dimension, Asgard, Astral Realm of Morgan Le Fey, Avalopn, Badlands, Bast, Beliath, Beyond, Biphasia, The Black Sea, Citadel of Silence, Crimson Cosmos, Crystalium

#7
Khoryphos
Kofi
Kurse
Lemuria (only in Atlas format, not Handbook)
Lorelei
Mad-Dog
Maelstrom’s Minions; also Gronk, Phobius, Helio
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also The Dark Dimension, Dark Realm of the Fomor, Death Dimension, Demon Realm, Dimension Z, Dimension Zero, Dinosaur World, Dream Dimension, Duckworld, Earth-Squadron

#8
Magus
Malus, Dr. Karl
Manhattan (E)
Manslaughter
Man-Thing’s Swamp
Massachusetts Academy
Mass Master
Mayhem (F Appendix)
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Feng-Tu, “Fifth Dimension”, Flatworld, “Fourth Dimension”, Fragmnted America, The Gorge, Hades, The Halls of Fear, Hel, Heliopolis, Hell, “Here” and “There”, Hulk-Worlds

#9
Morlocks: Annalee (E), Ape (E), Beautiful Dreamer (E), Erg (E), Healer (E), Piper (E), Plague (E), Tar Baby (E)
Mutant Force; also Burner, Lifter, Peeper, Shocker, Slither
Mass Master (fixing printing error in previous issue)
Mayhem (F Appendix) (fixing printing error in previous issue)
Nuklo
Olympia
Olympian Gods: Vesta
Olympus
Omega Flight: Jerry Jaxon, Flashback, Delphine Courtney
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Hulk-Worlds, Ice World of Ikthalon, Jakar’s World, Jotunheim, Kaa (F), Katharta, Kingdom of Tazza

#10
Phastos
Possessor
Power Broker, Inc.
Primus (E)
Rattler
Red Ronin (F)
Reject
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Kismet, Kobar, Land of Shades, Land Within, Light Dimension, Limbo (True), Limbo-Belasco, Limbo-Rom, Lockjaw’s Food World, Luminia, Kahkos and Elysia, Megrim, Netherworld of Eternal Doom

#11
Rom (no longer licensed to Marvel)
Savage Land Mutates: Amphius (E), Brainchild (E), Gaza (E), Equilibrius (E), Lorelei (E), Lupo (E), Piper (E)
Serpent Society Headquarters
SHIELD Uniforms
SHIELD Flying Car
Sidewinder
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Netherworld of Gulgol, Nirvana, Olympus, Ort-Beast, Other-Earth, Other Realm, Otherwhere, Phaseword, Planes of Pohldark




Eduardo M.

Jan 5, 2011, 09:20 pm

The X-Men Mansion was covered as part of the Xavier Institute entry in Vol.13 of the hardcovers




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 5, 2011, 10:16 pm


v1 correction: Fomalhauti should be removed from #4

Deluxe continued:

#12
Sinister Syndicate (E)
Sin-Eater (E)
Smartship Friday
Sons of the Tiger: Brown, Abraham; Diamond, Robert; Sun, Lin; Shinchuko, Lotus
Soviet Super-Soldiers
Squadron Supreme: Nighthawk, Whizzer, Doctor Spectrum, Amphibian, Skrull, Black Archer, Tom Thumb, Blue Eagle, Lady Lark, Arcanna, Nuke, Ape X, Dr. Decibel, Foxfire, Lamprey, Quagmire, Shape, Redstone, Moonglow, Thermite, Haywire, Inertia
Stane International
Subterraneans
Sunder (E)
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Planets Perilous, Polemachus, Purple Dimension, Quadriverse, Quarl, Quasi-Universe, Rammatpolen, Realm of the Beasts, Realm of Madness, Realm of Nothingness, Realm of the Shadows, Realm of the Undying Ones, “Reverse Dimension”, Rome-World

#13
Surtur
Tatterdemalion
Thunderiders; also Honcho, Wolf, R. U. Reddy, Wrench, Cowboy, Georgianna
Titan
Tower
U-Foes: Vector, Vapor, X-Ray, Ironclad
Ulik
ULTIMATUM
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Runestaff Dimension, S’ahra-Sharn, Saku, Sandt, Shadow Realm

#14
Uni-Mind
Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation
Vanguard
The Vault
Vibranium
Volcana
Wakanda (Atlas entry but not handbook entry)
Watchers
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also Shazana’s Realm, “Sixth Dimension”, Slaveworld, Sominus, Spotworld, Stormworld, Sub-Atomica, Sub-Space, Tagak’s World, Ta-Lo, Terragonia, Therea, Tunnelworld, The Un-Place, Weirdworld

#15
Wrecker
Wundagore
X-Men Jet
Appendix: Alien Races; also A’askvarii, Achernonians, A-Chiltarians, Alpha Centaurians, Arcturans, Astrans, Autocrons, Axi-Tun, Ba-Babi, Betans, Centaurians (F), Centurii, Chr’ylites, Ciegrimites, Clavians, Contraxians, Courga, Darbians, Deonists, Druffs, Elan, Entemen, Ergons, Flb’Dbi, Fonabi, Galadorians, Gegku, Glx, Gramosians, Grunds, Guna, Herms, Hibers, Hujah, Interdites, Judans, Kallusians, Kamado, Kawa, Klklk, Kodabaks, Kobinites (F), Kosmosians (though Kosmos was just covered), Kronans, Krylorians, Kt’kn, Kymellians, Landlaks, Laxidazians, Lem, Levians, Lumina, Makluans, Mandos, Megans, Mekkans, Mephistisoids, M’ndavians, Mobians, Morani, Myndai, Nanda, Nymenians, Ovoids, Pegasusians, Pheragots, Poppupians, Procyonites, Queega, Quists, Rajaks, Reptoids, Rhunians, R’malki’I, Roclites, R’zahnians, Sagittarians, Sarks, Saurids, Sirians, Siris, Sligs, Sm’ggani, Solons, Sneepers, Sssth, Stenth, Stonians, Taurians, Technarchy, Tektons, Thuvrians, Tribunals, Tsiln, Tsyrani, Ul’lula’ns, Vegans, Vorms, Vrellnexians, Wilameanis, Wobbs, Xantareans, Xantha, Xeronians, Xixix, Yirbek, Yrds, Zeen-Lavians (F), Zundamites
Appendix: Other Dimensions; also What If? Worlds, Zaar

#16
Ani-Men: Ape-Man I-II, Cat-Man I-II, Frog-Man I, Bird-Man I-II
Blue Streak
Century, Turner D.
Champions of Xandar: Nova-Prime, Protector, Powerhouse, Comet, Crimebuster
Cheetah
Cyclone (E)
Damian, Margo
Darkoth (E)
Strength Levels in the Known Marvel Universe

#17
Dorcas, Dr. Lemuel
Doctor Sun (E)
Eel I (E)
Fafnir
Green Goblin (III)
Hammer and Anvil
Harker, Quincy (E)
Hobgoblin I (E; sections relating to Leeds)
Alphabetical List of Marvel’s Publications with Series Set in the Marvel Universe

#18
Imperial Hydra
Kiber the Cruel
Letha
Living Monolith
Malekith the Accursed
Marauders: Blockbuster (E), Riptide (E), Prism (E)
Mauler I
Miracle Man
Mirage I (E)
Morlocks: Annalee (E), Blow-Hard (E), Cybelle (E), Scaleface (E), Tommy (E)
Nebulon
Nighthawk I
Alphabetical List of Marvel’s Publications with Series Set in the Marvel Universe

#19
Nuke
Phantom Eagle
Phantom Rider I
Professor Power
Red Raven (“death” aspects only; robot)
Salem’s Seven: Brutacus, Gazelle, Hydron, Reptilla, Thornn, Vakume, Vertigo I
Savage Land Races; also Aerians, Fall People, Lemurans, Man-Apes, Pterons, Sun People, Swamp Men, Tree People, Zebra People
Sawyer, General Sam
Scourge’s Victims
Serpent Crown (except Appendix)
Solarr

#20
Storm, Franklin (E)
Thumb, Tom
Thunderbolt (F)
Torpedo (E)
Vamp
Vampires: Nimrod, Turac, Lianda, Lucy Westernra, Edith Harker, Blade Doppleganger, Adri Nital, Lucas Brand, Harold H. Harold
Van Helsing, Rachel (E)
Van Lunt, Cornelius
Viper I
Whitemane, Aelfyre
Zodiac I: Aquarius I-II, Aries I-II, Cancer, Capricorn, Gemini, Leo, Pisces, Sagittarius, Virgo
Zuras




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 6, 2011, 01:18 am


<b>Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 3 I) – Update ‘89</b>

Note: the Masters Edition was also listed as v3. I’m skipping the trade paperback series because they were mostly a compilation of Deluxe entries, and the only new entry that I’m aware of, Headmen, also appears in Update ’89. Same ¼-page rules as Deluxe.

#1
Adversary (E)
Alliance of Evil; also Stinger, Timeshadow
Ammo
Ani-Mator
Apocalypse’s Horsemen (E); also Famine, War
Arcanna
Arclight (E)
Astronomer
Beyonders
Bird-Brain
Bullet (E)
Byrrah
Cat People (E)

#2
Chance I (E)
Chance II
Commission (F)
Dean, Laura
Destroyer (E)
Doctor Spectrum I
Dominus
Dominus’s Minions
Drake, Frank (E)
Dreamqueen
Earth Force; also Earth Lord, Wind Warrior

#3
Eon
Fallen Angels
Fasaud (E)
Foreigner (E)
Foster-Kincaid, Jane
Four Freedoms Plaza (E)
Garokk the Petrified Man
Gateway (E/F)
Giants of Jotunheim
Goblyn
Gomi (F Appendix)
Gosamyr
Great Beasts
Grog the God-Slayer
Halflife
Harpoon (E)
Headlok
Headmen (E); also Morgan, Dr. Jerold

#4
Infectia
Jade Dragon
Jones, Gabe
Killraven’s Freemen; also Frost, Carmilla; Old Skull; M’Shulla
Kubik (debatable since there is a Cosmic Cube entry)
Left-Winger
Lobo, Carlos
Mackenzie, Al
Madame Hydra
Maddicks, Artie (E/F)
Maison Alpha
Manikin

#5
Master Menace
Master Mold
Max
Mister Jip
Mongoose
Moon Boy
Naga
Neville, Kate
Night Shift: Misfit, Needle, Digger, Dansen Macabre, Ticktock
Numinus
Persuasion
Pierce, Alexander Goodwin
Plasma
Power, Dr. James
Power, Margaret

#6
Quantum
Right
Right-Winger
Scrambler (E)
Serpent Society: Black Racer, Boomslang, Coachwhip, Puff Adder, Rock Python

#7
Shadowmasters (E)
Shalla-Bal
Silver
Sisters of Sin
Spellbinder (F Appendix)
Spyder
Sundragon
Sunstroke
Super Sabre
Supreme Soviets
Tarr, Black Jack
Tess-One
Trader
Tyrak

#8
Utgard-Loki
Vagabond (F Appendix)
Vertigo (E)
Whiteout
Whizzer II
Wildboys (E)
Wiz Kid
Wolfpack
Worm
X-Factor Ship
X-Terminators
Zaladane (E)




Roger Ott

Jan 6, 2011, 01:23 am


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

an argument could be made that Knights of Wundagore = New Men, but I decided to include them anyway in that they could be seen as the enforcement arm of the New Men and not the New Men entirely

I've always considered them exactly as you said: The Knights are the enforcement arm of the New Men. When putting them into my custom database application, I entered them as separate records.




gorby

Jan 6, 2011, 04:12 am


ULTIMATUM (Deluxe #13) was covered in the Deadpool Handbook.

Good job !




ToddCam

Jan 6, 2011, 10:31 am


X-Factor Ship is Prosh. Also, Fang was covered.




captainswift

Jan 6, 2011, 12:30 pm


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

<b>Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 3 I) – Update ‘89</b>

Note: the Masters Edition was also listed as v3. I’m skipping the trade paperback series because they were mostly a compilation of Deluxe entries, and the only new entry that I’m aware of, Headmen, also appears in Update ’89.

Power Broker, the person, also had an entry in the trades, where the regular issues featured Power Broker, Inc, the company he owned.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 6, 2011, 02:07 pm


Thank you everyone for the corrections thus far. Because of the "only for one hour" editing rule I'll wait until maybe a week after I've posted the Masters#36 entries for any additional corrections to trickle in, and then I'll respost the cleaned up versions.




Rob London

Jan 6, 2011, 02:42 pm


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

#2
Belladonna (E)
Blitzkrieg
Charlie-27
Alien Races: Ba-Babi, Centaurians (F), Centurii, Chr’ylites, Ciegrimites
Appendix: Balor, Baron Blood, Baron Brimstone, Baron Macabre, Baron Samedi, Baxter Building (E), Behemoth, Bird-Man I, Black Knight II, Black Spectre I-II, Blackworld, Blockbuster, Blue Area of the Moon, Blue Bullet, Blue Streak, Bounty Hunter, Brainchild (E), Brain-Child, Brain Drain, Bres, Brothers Grimm (this refers to the Nathan Doll version), Brother Tode, Brutacus, Bucky II, Bulldozer, Burner, Bushman, Byrrah, Cancer, Cannonball I, Capricorn, Captain Barracuda (E), Cap’n Hawk

Brain Drain was in A-Z Update 2010 #3.




Rayeye

Jan 6, 2011, 03:43 pm

Nice work Andy!

Ani-Mator, Bird-Brain, Chance (Powell), the Commission, Laura Dean, Doctor Spectrum, Frank Drake, Earth Lord, Garokk the Petrified Man, Gateway, Infectia, Gabe Jones, Left-Winger, Lobo Brothers (includes Carlos Lobo), Moon Boy, Persuasion, Dr. James Power, the Right, Shadowmasters. Shalla-Ball, Sisters of Sin, Whiteout all had little entries in the Marvel Encyclopedia (v2, 2006). Unfortunately Laura's entry included a picture of the wrong girl (Puck/Zuzha Yu). Doctor Spectrum had only pictures of his Supreme Power counterpart.
Perhaps more of those you listed were in it, but I only checked the Update '89 entries.

Serpent Society was covered in OHOTMU: Teams 2005 and OHOTMU A-Z HC #10. Night Shift was recently covered in the OHOTMU A-Z Update #2.




Roger Ott

Jan 6, 2011, 04:00 pm

Rayeye  wrote:

Ani-Mator, Bird-Brain, Chance (Powell), the Commission, Laura Dean, Doctor Spectrum, Frank Drake, Earth Lord, Garokk the Petrified Man, Gateway, Infectia, Gabe Jones, Left-Winger, Lobo Brothers (includes Carlos Lobo), Moon Boy, Persuasion, Dr. James Power, the Right, Shadowmasters. Shalla-Ball, Sisters of Sin, Whiteout all had little entries in the Marvel Encyclopedia (v2, 2006). Unfortunately Laura's entry included a picture of the wrong girl (Puck/Zuzha Yu). Doctor Spectrum had only pictures of his Supreme Power counterpart.

That 2006 encyclopedia was riddled with errors, wrong images, etc. Unfortunately, the updated version in 2009 didn't seem to correct them all.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 6, 2011, 06:58 pm

Roger Ott wrote:

That 2006 encyclopedia was riddled with errors, wrong images, etc. Unfortunately, the updated version in 2009 didn't seem to correct them all.

That's one of the reasons I'm not counting the DK encyclopedias and only counting the early 2000s series put out by Marvel. Actually I haven't seen read DK's Marvel ones but their first DC one had the same problem. Another reason therefore is I don't have then and can't scrutinize them. A third reason is that ones put out at Marvel themselves (other than the Hulk one where one of the writers actually bragged that his writing wasn't as good as the Wizard magazine writers; I remain amazed by that) have a stronger connection to the modern Handbooks than do the DK versions.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 6, 2011, 07:05 pm


Rayeye  wrote:

Serpent Society was covered in OHOTMU: Teams 2005 and OHOTMU A-Z HC #10. Night Shift was recently covered in the OHOTMU A-Z Update #2.

Actually the Update '89 references to Night Shift and Serpent Society were only to the 1/4-page sub-entries (e.g. Digger and Puff Adder). While it's true that the broad entries have been covered, the specific individual members listed who had 1/4 pagers have not been given a new entry.

Oh, I have to amend one thing I said earlier: after Masters I will be doing one more. Hint: it was put out by Marvel in the 1990s after the Masters ended.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 6, 2011, 08:46 pm

<b>Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (Vol. 3 II) Master’s Edition</b>

As noted above, both this series and Update ’89 were treated as vol. 3 in the indica. I’m doing all these in one post due the “jigsaw” nature of the series; that is, because I’ve put the entries in ABC order, I’m checking the issue numbers whenever I come across someone not yet covered. I’ve kept the Contents pages but they aren’t always clear which version of a character’s covered.

For Supporting Cast listings I’ve also included the sub-listings. Note that some of Spider-Man’s supporting cast have had sub-entries in the newer Supporting Cast listing, but if listed here haven’t had their own entry

#1
Counterweight
Foxfire
MODAM
Moonboy
Nebulon
Oneg the Prober
Zuras

#2
Eel I-II (I: E)
Kubik (debatable since there is a Cosmic Cube entry)
Mother Night
Rock Python
Sise-Neg
Volcana

#3
Gargantua
Naga
Sunder (E)
Whizzer III
Wrecker

#4
Dr. Minerva
Hammer
Malekith the Accursed
Mister Jip
Nikki
Red Raven (only parts related to death; robot)
Shape
Vector
Ziran the Tester

#5
Crimson Dynamo I-VI (Note: the armor’s been covered but the Masters entry was more focussed on the individual wearers, complete with vital statistics for each)
Doctor Malus
Nighthawk I
Sleeper (there’s been a Sleepers entry but this is the 4th one specifically)

#6
Astronomer
Darkoth (E)
Gatecrasher
Hobgoblin “I” (Leeds)
One Above All
Professor Power (E)
Vertigo (E)

#7
Karnilla
Mercurio
Red Ronin (E)
Ulik
Valkin

#8
Lamprey
Manslaughter
Piledriver

#9
Brother Tode
Isis
Phantom Eagle
Porcupine
Vidar

#10
X-Ray

#11
Balor
Crucible
Lupo (E)
Nezarr the Calculator
Oddball
Vanguard

#12
Aguila (F Appendix)
Andromeda
Helio
Karnak (E)
Piper (E)
Puff Adder
Taurus
Whiplash II

#13
Bullet (E)
Fer-de-Lance
Mad Dog
Spider-Man’s Supporting Cast: Lance Bannon (E), Katherine “Kate” Cushing (E), Joy Mercado (E)
Surtur

#14
Captain American’s Supporting Cast; also Margaret “Peggy” Carter, Bernadette “Bernie” Rosenthal
Eon
Jetstream (E)
Kurse
Mongoose
Sidewinder (E)
Super Sabre
Uni-Mind

#15
Garokk the Petrified Man
Ghost Rider’s Supporting Cast; also Barbara Ketch, Francis Ketch, Stacy Dolan, Captain Arthur Dolan, Jack d’Auria, Linda Wei, Pauline Stratton
Mangog
Moonglow I-II
Tyr

#16
Jemiah the Analyzer
Kofi
Stallior
Tatterdemalion
Vamp
Wolverine’s Supporting Cast

#17
Eson the Searcher
Punisher’s Arsenal
Thunderball
Worm

#18
Arishem the Judge
Bulldozer
Ironclad
She-Hulk’s Supporting Cast; also Morris Walters, Blake Tower (E), Garth, Richard Rory, Dan “Zapper” Ridge
Zaladane (E)

#19
Daredevil’s Supporting Cast; also Jonathan “Battling Jack” Murdock (E), Sister Maggie (E)
Earth-Lord
Tom Thumb
Ultimus

#20
Baron Blood I
Captain Atlas
Nuke I
Quantum
Redstone

#21
Haywire
Karkas
Occult

#22
Gammenon the Gatherer
Slither
Starbolt (E)

#23
Doctor Spectrum
Left-Winger
Supremor

#24
Ape-Man I-II
Byrrah
Cyclone
Trump

#25
Cottonmouth II
Mirage I (E)
Osiris
Quagmire
Wind Warrior

#26
Aginar
Foreigner (E)
Halflife I
Rattler
Titan

#27
Anvil
Cat-Man I-II
Electron (E)
Foolikiller II (E)
Green Goblin III
Needle

#28
Aron the Rogue Watcher (E)
Dreamqueen
Possessor
Starhawk II

#29
Occulus (E)
Talon

#30
Chord
Impala
Nobilus
Shalla Bal
Snowblind
X-Men’s Supporting Cast; also Warren K. Worthington, Jr.; Kathryn Worthington; Norton McCoy; Edna Andrews McCoy; Ted Roberts; Candance “Candy” Southern; William Robert Blake

#31
Agamemnon
Blue Eagle
Destroyer (E)
Gronk
Hussar (E)
Living Monolith (E)
Quill
X-Men’s Supporting Cast; also Madelaine Beatrice Drake; Elizabeth “Betsy” Wilford; Dr. Peter Corbeau

#32
Analyzer
Bird-Man I-II
Doughboy
Famine
Harriers
Ion
Nefarius
Senor Muerte I-II
Shapeshifter (E)

#33
Black Archer
Crippler (F Appendix)
Gideon (F)
Inertia
Rancor
Tyler Stone

#34
Frog-Man I
Grizzly II
Null the Living Darkness
Replica

#35
Bloodaxe
Doom 2099 (E)
Fearmaster
Shotgun (E)
Specialist
Spirit of Vengeance

#36
Ajax
Chance I (E)
Evilhawk
Hardcore
Savage Steel (F Appendix)

And... finally...

<b>Avengers Log</b>

Only one issue, so easily overlooked, but quite a few of the characters below have never been covered officially anywhere else

Edwin Jarvis and the Avengers Crew (Crew only)
Aries I
Assassin II
Balor
Bloodhawk I
Brain-Child
Bres
Brutus
Butte
Cactus
Captain Atlas
Cat People (F)
Combine
Commissar
Defiler
Doctor Minerva
Doctor Spectrum II
Dominus I
Eternity Man
Gila
Halflife I
Hangman II
Headlok
Heavy Metal
Hyena
Inferno II
Kallusians
Keeper of the Flame
Kubik (debatable since there is a Cosmic Cube entry)
Living Bombs
Lloigoroth
Manipulator I-II
Minotaur I
MODAM
Monsieur Khrull
Mother Night
Nebulon
Ngh the Unspeakable
Nuklo
People’s Protectorate
Phantom Rider I/III
Priests of Pama
Prometheus I
Pyron the Thermal Man
Quantum
Rangers
Raptor
Red Guardian V
Red Ronin (F)
Shadowlord
Split-Second Squad
Star-Stalker
Stinger II
Subterraneans
Sunstroke
Supernalia
Surgte I
Surtur
Svyatogor
Sybil Dorn
Taifu
Taurus I
Tetrarchs of Entropy
Thane Ector
Titanic Three
Troglodytes
Tyrak
War Toy
Weathermen
Wrecker III
Yetrigar
Zvezda Dennista




Madison Carter

Jan 7, 2011, 12:21 am


If that Green Goblin III is Harry, then yes, he's been covered. Mention lately I hate the roman numeral system from back then? I truly truly do.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 7, 2011, 03:45 am


Madison Carter wrote:

If that Green Goblin III is Harry, then yes, he's been covered. Mention lately I hate the roman numeral system from back then? I truly truly do.

GG III is Dr. Bart Hamilton (he became the Goblin due to treating Harry, who of course only became the Goblin after witnessing his father's apparent death). He typically shared the GG entries with the Osborns in the old Handbooks so I ignored the Osborns and only listed him.




gorby

Jan 7, 2011, 03:51 am


Green Goblin III is Bart Hamilton.

Sister Maggie was recently covered in the Update #4, but very good job !!




Rob London

Jan 7, 2011, 11:37 am

From the Avengers Log - isn't War Toy just an alias for Alkhema (who has been profiled)?




Roger Ott

Jan 7, 2011, 12:12 pm


Madison Carter wrote:

Mention lately I hate the roman numeral system from back then? I truly truly do.

I never realized how much of a pain it was until new characters of the same name started getting shoehorned into past continuity, then it became apparent that the roman numeral system was deeply flawed.

I much prefer the system you guys came up with. You really have made the OHOTMU series your own - bigger, better, and all-encompassing.




Michael Regan

Jan 7, 2011, 01:34 pm


No way around it to differentiate between multiple characters where their real names are unknown, but I don't like the Roman Numerals either.




Stuart V

Jan 7, 2011, 03:33 pm


Michael Regan wrote:

No way around it to differentiate between multiple characters where their real names are unknown, but I don't like the Roman Numerals either.

There is. We simply have to pick another distinguishing characteristic (e.g. "Black Knight (Vatican's)"). Occasionally it's not the most elegant option, but that's why real names are preferable for clarifiers.



 


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Michael Regan

Jan 7, 2011, 03:39 pm


Stuart V wrote:

There is. We simply have to pick another distinguishing characteristic (e.g. "Black Knight (Vatican's)"). Occasionally it's not the most elegant option, but that's why real names are preferable for clarifiers.

Fair enough, that is true.




Madison Carter

Jan 7, 2011, 03:53 pm

Roger Ott wrote:

I never realized how much of a pain it was until new characters of the same name started getting shoehorned into past continuity, then it became apparent that the roman numeral system was deeply flawed.

I much prefer the system you guys came up with. You really have made the OHOTMU series your own - bigger, better, and all-encompassing.

It's not just the retcon characters, it's characters that legitimately had that name without being recognized by the roman numerals as well, such as all the western characters like Vulture, Tarantula, etc.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 7, 2011, 04:19 pm


Madison Carter wrote:

It's not just the retcon characters, it's characters that legitimately had that name without being recognized by the roman numerals as well, such as all the western characters like Vulture, Tarantula, etc.

True. In the 1980s I don't think they realized how many Vultures there were. Of course there's been a shift since the 1980s. In the 1980s, Golden Age stories were generally *not* in continuity unless specifically noted, whereas now Golden Age stories are generally considered to be in continuity unless noted. That alone affected the Roman numeral placement.

Yet another complication of course is What If? Worlds, especially since on rare occasions characters introduced in that title appear elsewhere. Thankfully so far that hasn't gotten as out of control as it could potentially get.

Where I do the next draft of this list, I'll keep in the Roman numerals for historical purposes, but I'll include a clarifier in brackets afterwards.




Madison Carter

Jan 7, 2011, 08:41 pm


something I may suggest if you plan another version - It might read easier if you put all the characters in one alphabetical list, with notations of what they appearead in (e.g. (Or4, DE3, ME25)) after the names




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 7, 2011, 09:48 pm

Madison Carter wrote:

something I may suggest if you plan another version - It might read easier if you put all the characters in one alphabetical list, with notations of what they appearead in (e.g. (Or4, DE3, ME25)) after the names

Hmm, I could certainly see myself doing things both ways. I can see how that would be helpful, but at the same time wouldn't want the list to just be the same as Eric's only with characters omitted as they get covered in newer books (plus the odd tweak here and there). The other reason I'd still want to keep the issue by issue format as well is I think it's fun to see how close the older books are to being covered in their entirety post-2000 (in particular there are some Masters issues that are only 1-3 entries away from being migrated over completely). But if there's enough interest I'd be happy to do both formats.




Stuart V

Jan 7, 2011, 09:53 pm


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Hmm, I could certainly see myself doing things both ways. I can see how that would be helpful, but at the same time wouldn't want the list to just be the same as Eric's only with characters omitted as they get covered in newer books (plus the odd tweak here and there). The other reason I'd still want to keep the issue by issue format as well is I think it's fun to see how close the older books are to being covered in their entirety post-2000 (in particular there are some Masters issues that are only 1-2 entries away from being migrated over completely). But if there's enough interest I'd be happy to do both formats.

I have to admit I like your chosen method of listing for that very reason - it's easy to spot what needs to be done to eliminate each individual older issue from the listing, allowing for an element of "targetting."




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 7, 2011, 10:02 pm


captainswift wrote:

Power Broker, the person, also had an entry in the trades, where the regular issues featured Power Broker, Inc, the company he owned.

Good point. I'll make a special note of him. It's probably still not worth doing all the trades just for him but it's still worth noting.

Rob London wrote:

From the Avengers Log - isn't War Toy just an alias for Alkhema (who has been profiled)?

I just doublechecked and you're right. I'll remove her from the list.

Stuart V wrote:

I have to admit I like your chosen method of listing for that very reason - it's easy to spot what needs to be done to eliminate each individual older issue from the listing, allowing for an element of "targetting."

Glad you like it. The reason I embarked on this was my curiousity about this got the best of me, and figured that the people who frequent this board might be similarly curious. If this does affect who gets covered in later volumes I'll certainly be flattered, but it was mainly that I had an itch to scratch. I was sad when I was going through the Masters Edition sheets and hit the X's. #10 came so close...




Sidney Osinga

Jan 7, 2011, 10:29 pm


I like the idea of this list. I did a similar thing. I made a list of all the characters from the three 1980's series who haven't been covered yet, and cross off those who get entries. Personally, I'd like to see all the entries from the '80's being covered.




Eduardo M.

Jan 7, 2011, 11:17 pm

Sidney Osinga wrote:

I like the idea of this list. I did a similar thing. I made a list of all the characters from the three 1980's series who haven't been covered yet, and cross off those who get entries. Personally, I'd like to see all the entries from the '80's being covered.

I did the same thing but on notebook paper.




Sidney Osinga

Jan 7, 2011, 11:21 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

I did the same thing but on notebook paper.

Yeah, that's where I have mine. The first list was three sheets, front and back, with two columns. After the last hardcover came out, I redid it and ended up with less than two sheets. Of course, I only covered full entries and not the quarter page ones.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 8, 2011, 03:33 am


Sidney Osinga wrote:

Yeah, that's where I have mine. The first list was three sheets, front and back, with two columns. After the last hardcover came out, I redid it and ended up with less than two sheets. Of course, I only covered full entries and not the quarter page ones.

I thought it was important to include those and the Appendix because those are often where the oddball characters are.

Off topic: is it possible to flag a thread without opening it? Even without clicking on the thread, "fresh checked dumps" is a rather disturbing image.




Michael Regan

Jan 8, 2011, 08:47 am


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Off topic: is it possible to flag a thread without opening it? Even without clicking on the thread, "fresh checked dumps" is a rather disturbing image.

Unfortunately not, but I've flagged it.




bigvis497

Jan 8, 2011, 05:28 pm


Good work, this will come in handy!

One of the first things that comes to mind looking over this is how easy it would be to fill a Thor handbook. There's tons of Thor characters that haven't received modern entries.




captainswift

Jan 9, 2011, 12:10 am


I also want to point out that the Deluxe edition trades had a different entry for the android Zodiac, which did 1/4 pagers for the membership (not the same 1/4 pagers for the deceased Zodiac in issue 20). For some reason, they numbered them by their status in the android Zodiac organization, so that both the Human Zodiac and the android Zodiac had, for instance, an Aries I and Aries II.

At any rate, the 1/4 page entries for the android Zodiac were: Aquarius, Aries I & II, Cancer, Capricorn II, Gemini, Leo I & II, Libra, Pisces II, Sagittarius I & II, Taurus I & II, Virgo II. (I presume the number of II's with no I's is because the first android Zodiac had several members who didn't "survive" the creation process)




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 9, 2011, 01:50 am


captainswift wrote:

I also want to point out that the Deluxe edition trades had a different entry for the android Zodiac, which did 1/4 pagers for the membership (not the same 1/4 pagers for the deceased Zodiac in issue 20). For some reason, they numbered them by their status in the android Zodiac organization, so that both the Human Zodiac and the android Zodiac had, for instance, an Aries I and Aries II.

At any rate, the 1/4 page entries for the android Zodiac were: Aquarius, Aries I & II, Cancer, Capricorn II, Gemini, Leo I & II, Libra, Pisces II, Sagittarius I & II, Taurus I & II, Virgo II. (I presume the number of II's with no I's is because the first android Zodiac had several members who didn't "survive" the creation process)

Thank you, Cap. Fortunately I do have the tpb's so I'll work those in with proper descriptions in my next draft.




captainswift

Jan 9, 2011, 10:32 pm


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Thank you, Cap. Fortunately I do have the tpb's so I'll work those in with proper descriptions in my next draft.

Not a problem. And that's it, too. Zodiac 1/4-pagers and Power Broker are all the "new" tpb entries that haven't been covered in recent years. So, y'know, you could just fit those in with the appropriate Deluxe issue.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 9, 2011, 11:22 pm


captainswift wrote:

Not a problem. And that's it, too. Zodiac 1/4-pagers and Power Broker are all the "new" tpb entries that haven't been covered in recent years. So, y'know, you could just fit those in with the appropriate Deluxe issue.

Actually one more: the tpb Headmen entry preceeded the Update '89 one. I'll do a mini-section on the tpb.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 11, 2011, 03:35 pm

Deleted. I'm keeping the original starting posts for historical purposes but deleting the older updates because they serve no purpose and removing them makes the thread easier to wade through.




bigvis497

Jan 11, 2011, 04:14 pm


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

#4
Infectia
Jade Dragon
Jones, Gabe
Killraven’s Freemen; also Frost, Carmilla; Old Skull; M’Shulla
Kubik (debatable since there is a Cosmic Cube entry)
Left-Winger
Lobo, Carlos
Mackenzie, Al
Madame Hydra
Maddicks, Artie (E/F)
Maison Alpha
Manikin

Madame Hydra is the same as Viper right? She got a lengthy entry in the modern series.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 11, 2011, 04:32 pm

bigvis497 wrote:

Madame Hydra is the same as Viper right? She got a lengthy entry in the modern series.

Crap, missed a qualifier (got tripped up by the lack of Roman numerals in her entry). No, this one's her successor, who first appeared Nick Fury vs SHIELD




bigvis497

Jan 11, 2011, 04:56 pm


Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Crap, missed a qualifier (got tripped up by the lack of Roman numerals in her entry). No, this one's her successor, who first appeared Nick Fury vs SHIELD

Whoops! Slipped up there.

But wasn't she revealed as Val de Fontaine? It happened in Secret Warriors I think. She did get an entry in one of the recent updates.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 11, 2011, 05:20 pm

bigvis497 wrote:

Whoops! Slipped up there.

But wasn't she revealed as Val de Fontaine? It happened in Secret Warriors I think. She did get an entry in one of the recent updates.

I'm a bit behind on my Secret Warrior reading but while I understand de Fontaine is Madame Hydra now, I'd be surprised if she was retconned into being the specific Madame Hydra from Nick Fury vs SHIELD. For one thing both Fontaine and Madame Hydra appeared in many of the same issues (of Nick Fury vs SHIELD and the later Nick Fury Agent of SHIELD series), so there would likely be instances of her being in two places at once. Then there's the fact that this was a lesser Madame Hydra (Madame Hydra Six, so there were at least five Madame Hydra's above her; it would make sense that Fontaine was actually one of the unseen higher ones). Then there's the fact that this Madame Hydra was more than a little crazy and eventually blew herself up on purpose; it could be an elaborate impersonation but what would be the point of pretending to be this particular incarnation of Madame Hydra?




Sidney Osinga

Jan 11, 2011, 10:32 pm


Here's the Appendix entry for the Madame Hydra in question: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/madamehydra.htm




Madison Carter

Jan 12, 2011, 02:00 am


Two things:

1. The Kronan race has been covered.
2. This list is going to be a helluva lot shorter after the next 4 projects we're working on.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 12, 2011, 05:07 am

Madison Carter wrote:

2. This list is going to be a helluva lot shorter after the next 4 projects we're working on.

Excellent news (both that four Handbooks are coming soon and that a lot of classic entries will get an update). Hmm, trying to think of themes that could knock off quite a few. Well, there's always a general book; also Thor, aliens/space, villains, Avengers, and, surprisingly, yet another x-book would clear this quite a bit. To a lesser degree also Captain America, Daredevil, Spider-Man.




Eduardo M.

Jan 12, 2011, 10:57 am

Madison Carter wrote:

2. This list is going to be a helluva lot shorter after the next 4 projects we're working on.

Any chance you could hint as to what those projects are? And when you say next 4 projects do you mean the upcoming Blockbusters of the MU and 3 other projects or the Blockbusters book plus 4 other projects?




captainswift

Jan 12, 2011, 01:02 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

Any chance you could hint as to what those projects are? And when you say next 4 projects do you mean the upcoming Blockbusters of the MU and 3 other projects or the Blockbusters book plus 4 other projects?

I doubt Blockbusters will clear off any of the list at all, if it is, as I believe, entirely events. So hopefully, that's 4 upcoming projects to which we are not yet privy.




Stuart V

Jan 12, 2011, 01:42 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

Any chance you could hint as to what those projects are? And when you say next 4 projects do you mean the upcoming Blockbusters of the MU and 3 other projects or the Blockbusters book plus 4 other projects?

We're not working on Blockbusters any more. It's already at the printers.




Phoenixx9

Jan 12, 2011, 04:05 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

Any chance you could hint as to what those projects are? And when you say next 4 projects do you mean the upcoming Blockbusters of the MU and 3 other projects or the Blockbusters book plus 4 other projects?

And can you hint if they are my favorite type of books--Handbooks--or those other type, the Filebooks?

:shhh: You could just say "HB" or "FB" or if a combo, "3HB and 1FB"--that's not really telling us what you're working on!




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 12, 2011, 09:21 pm

Phoenixx9 wrote:

And can you hint if they are my favorite type of books--Handbooks--or those other type, the Filebooks?

:shhh: You could just say "HB" or "FB" or if a combo, "3HB and 1FB"--that's not really telling us what you're working on!

I'm wagering they Madison does mean Handbooks because because my list includes characters who've appeared in Files books. So for them to be knocked off this list it would have to be in an actual Handbook.

Oh, and one caveat, because of the possibility of situations like Red Ronin in Update 5, I won't actually knock anyone off my list during the solicits, but once an issue is actually in my apartment I'll start trimming the list accordingly. Next time I update the list though (probably once an issue that removes characters is published) I'll note announced characters for other soliticited books.




Sidney Osinga

Jan 12, 2011, 10:29 pm

Andy, you could possibly remove the Soviet Super-Soldiers from Deluxe #12 and the Supreme Soviets from Update #7 as the Winter Guard entry did a good job of covering the groups predecessors (also including Siberforce) so it can be argued that they have already been covered.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 13, 2011, 01:01 am

Sidney Osinga wrote:

Andy, you could possibly remove the Soviet Super-Soldiers from Deluxe #12 and the Supreme Soviets from Update #7 as the Winter Guard entry did a good job of covering the groups predecessors (also including Siberforce) so it can be argued that they have already been covered.

Well, I've left in other borderline cases (e.g. Kosmosians, Asgard) so I'll hold off until they get a specific entry on their own. This is not a slight against the Winter Guard entry but rather the fact that it's fun to see defunct teams covered as themselves. Also there might be a different take if they're not presented in relation to a similar, subsequent team. And if they never get covered separately, well, thanks to Rom this list will probably never dwindle entirely to nothing anyway so that doesn't matter too much.




Roger Ott

Jan 13, 2011, 08:07 am

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

thanks to Rom this list will probably never dwindle entirely to nothing anyway

I don't understand why Parker Brothers is still holding onto Rom so tightly. It's not as though they've done anything with the character in forever, and I'd really dig some new Rom stories. Marvel got the rights to reprint his OHOTMU entries in the Essentials a few years back, so maybe there's a small shred of hope...




bigvis497

Jan 13, 2011, 08:49 am


Roger Ott wrote:

I don't understand why Parker Brothers is still holding onto Rom so tightly. It's not as though they've done anything with the character in forever, and I'd really dig some new Rom stories. Marvel got the rights to reprint his OHOTMU entries in the Essentials a few years back, so maybe there's a small shred of hope...

Didn't Rom show up to Rick Jones's wedding? Or was it his bachelor party? One of the two. I remember he showed up sans armor, but was still mentioned as Rom.

Anyone know the deal behind that one? One would think that incident occured after the license expired as it happened around 93-94, long after Marvel produced the last Rom comic.

On a side note, if you look real closely you can see Rom in South Park's "Imaginationland" trilogy. Of all the characters to choose from, they add Rom. I got a kick out of that.




Eduardo M.

Jan 13, 2011, 11:01 am

bigvis497 wrote:

Didn't Rom show up to Rick Jones's wedding? Or was it his bachelor party? One of the two. I remember he showed up sans armor, but was still mentioned as Rom.

Anyone know the deal behind that one? One would think that incident occured after the license expired as it happened around 93-94, long after Marvel produced the last Rom comic.

Rom appeared w/out armor alongside Brandy Clark at Rick's wedding. Don't how Marvel pulled it off. I guess since he wasn't in armor it was easier. Kinda like how Death from the Endless did a cameo at the end of the issue but was seen from behind and never named




captainswift

Jan 13, 2011, 12:34 pm

Eduardo M. wrote:

Rom appeared w/out armor alongside Brandy Clark at Rick's wedding. Don't how Marvel pulled it off. I guess since he wasn't in armor it was easier. Kinda like how Death from the Endless did a cameo at the end of the issue but was seen from behind and never named

My understanding on the issue: Unlike G.I. Joe, Transformers, or Star Wars (whose owners claimed ownership of any characters created for those comics), Rom was licensed similarly to Godzilla or Micronauts, where anyone not from the original source belonged to Marvel. As the only character in the Rom toyline was, in fact, Rom, Marvel owns everybody else including unarmored Rom, as the toy didn't have an unarmored form.

So, technically, if they redesigned him and called him Silver Square-Head Man or somesuch, they could still use him. But what's the point of using Rom if he isn't Rom, ultimately?




Madison Carter

Jan 13, 2011, 02:43 pm


Phoenixx9 wrote:

And can you hint if they are my favorite type of books--Handbooks--or those other type, the Filebooks?

:shhh: You could just say "HB" or "FB" or if a combo, "3HB and 1FB"--that's not really telling us what you're working on!

They're definitely handbooks not files, but that's all I can say. Until things are officially announced we can't give any sort of hints or clues really, but I think it was safe and fair to say we're working on something at least.




Sidney Osinga

Jan 13, 2011, 02:57 pm


captainswift wrote:

My understanding on the issue: Unlike G.I. Joe, Transformers, or Star Wars (whose owners claimed ownership of any characters created for those comics), Rom was licensed similarly to Godzilla or Micronauts, where anyone not from the original source belonged to Marvel. As the only character in the Rom toyline was, in fact, Rom, Marvel owns everybody else including unarmored Rom, as the toy didn't have an unarmored form.

So, technically, if they redesigned him and called him Silver Square-Head Man or somesuch, they could still use him. But what's the point of using Rom if he isn't Rom, ultimately?

Also, Rom appeared in an issue of Universe X years ago, also unarmored.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 13, 2011, 03:16 pm

Roger Ott wrote:

I don't understand why Parker Brothers is still holding onto Rom so tightly. It's not as though they've done anything with the character in forever, and I'd really dig some new Rom stories. Marvel got the rights to reprint his OHOTMU entries in the Essentials a few years back, so maybe there's a small shred of hope...

I'm wondering if that was just a case of no one noticing that there shouldn't be an armoured Rom present; his Power Man and Iron First appearance was skipped in that Essential volume. <b>If</b> the armour's the only concern I wouldn't mind seeing a Handbook entry with stuff related to the armour omitted.




Phoenixx9

Jan 13, 2011, 04:30 pm

Madison Carter wrote:

They're definitely handbooks not files, but that's all I can say. Until things are officially announced we can't give any sort of hints or clues really, but I think it was safe and fair to say we're working on something at least.

Thanks Madison. That's all I wanted to know. Yah, HBS are coming! 4 of them in 2011!! :yeah:

If I had to guess, and I know you can't comment on this Madison, I would say the 4 HBs are:

1) Thor and Associates: Don't forget to add:
*Jane Foster including her goddess days and please mention her alternate future time as Thor known as Thordis
*Casiolena
*The Enchanters
*Fragon the Sorcerer
*Ollerus

2) either Captain America or the Avengers (containing Cap and some associates)

3) The X-Men (and various mutants and associates)

4) either The Fantastic Four or a Miscellaneous Book




Stuart V

Jan 13, 2011, 04:56 pm

Phoenixx9 wrote:

Thanks Madison. That's all I wanted to know. Yah, HBS are coming! 4 of them in 2011!! :yeah:

If I had to guess, and I know you can't comment on this Madison, I would say the 4 HBs are:

1) Thor and Associates: Don't forget to add:
*Jane Foster including her goddess days and please mention her alternate future time as Thor known as Thordis
*Casiolena
*The Enchanters
*Fragon the Sorcerer
*Ollerus

2) either Captain America or the Avengers (containing Cap and some associates)

3) The X-Men (and various mutants and associates)

4) either The Fantastic Four or a Miscellaneous Book

Madison may feel he can't comment, but I'm going to throw caution to the wind, and tell you at least one! Our next book is the Star Comics Handbook. Who knew? Don't tell anyone, but Marvel's next big film project is Star Comics, and they've signed Tom Cruise as Planet Terry and Robert DeNiro to play Top Dog. Hence a tie-in handbook. :howudoin:




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 13, 2011, 07:35 pm

Stuart V wrote:

Madison may feel he can't comment, but I'm going to throw caution to the wind, and tell you at least one! Our next book is the Star Comics Handbook. Who knew? Don't tell anyone, but Marvel's next big film project is Star Comics, and they've signed Tom Cruise as Planet Terry and Robert DeNiro to play Top Dog. Hence a tie-in handbook. :howudoin:

I hear Marvel got back the rights for Healthcliff and he'll be getting an 8-pager in that handbook reconciling the continuities of the Star Comic, the comic strip, the cartoon series.




captainswift

Jan 13, 2011, 11:24 pm


I'm really hoping for "One-Shot Guys Who Did Something Funny in Less Than Three Panels" Handbook. Featuring the two garbagemen who freaked out when Beast and Iron Man threw some garbage away outside Avengers Mansion, the guy who was going be be known forever more as "The biggest liar in [insert whatever town I've forgotten here]" after the Hulk jumped over his car, and the Tenants Association that tried to get the Fantastic Four evicted and were scared off by the Thing.

I also hope there'll be a two page Appendix on why the heck people are still freaked out by rather mundane super-heroics despite the amount of alien invasions, giant rifts to Hell, and regular apocalypses that occur in the Marvel Universe.




Phoenixx9

Jan 14, 2011, 09:15 am

Stuart V wrote:

Madison may feel he can't comment, but I'm going to throw caution to the wind, and tell you at least one! Our next book is the Star Comics Handbook. Who knew? Don't tell anyone, but Marvel's next big film project is Star Comics, and they've signed Tom Cruise as Planet Terry and Robert DeNiro to play Top Dog. Hence a tie-in handbook. :howudoin:

Wow! Thanks for the Sneakity-Peekity, Stuart!

Whoda thunkit, Star Comics!

So, one of my guesses was wrong, hopefully that one being #4, the FF or Miscellaneous book, although a variety of Star Comics cast could definitely be defined as "Miscellaneous".

captainswift wrote:

I'm really hoping for "One-Shot Guys Who Did Something Funny in Less Than Three Panels" Handbook. Featuring the two garbagemen who freaked out when Beast and Iron Man threw some garbage away outside Avengers Mansion, the guy who was going be be known forever more as "The biggest liar in [insert whatever town I've forgotten here]" after the Hulk jumped over his car, and the Tenants Association that tried to get the Fantastic Four evicted and were scared off by the Thing.

I also hope there'll be a two page Appendix on why the heck people are still freaked out by rather mundane super-heroics despite the amount of alien invasions, giant rifts to Hell, and regular apocalypses that occur in the Marvel Universe.

And don't forget the two workmen who first carried Jocasta into Avengers Mansion, way back when. I think their names were like Mac and Meyer or something. Very funny panels--one says Jocasta is "beautiful, like a new car, or maybe a refrigerator."




bigvis497

Jan 14, 2011, 10:10 am

Phoenixx9 wrote:

Wow! Thanks for the Sneakity-Peekity, Stuart!

Whoda thunkit, Star Comics!

So, one of my guesses was wrong, hopefully that one being #4, the FF or Miscellaneous book, although a variety of Star Comics cast could definitely be defined as "Miscellaneous".

I'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic....




Stuart V

Jan 14, 2011, 11:29 am

bigvis497 wrote:

I'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic....

Playful, rather than sarcastic. But definitely not serious. I'd have hoped the movie casting info would have alerted anyone reading it that I was being tongue-in-cheek...

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

I hear Marvel got back the rights for Healthcliff and he'll be getting an 8-pager in that handbook reconciling the continuities of the Star Comic, the comic strip, the cartoon series.

You heard right! It would discuss the infamous "Crisis of Infinite Heathcliffs" that merged the Star, comic strip and cartoon versions into Dark Heathcliff, who then battled the hastily assembled team of Garfield, Hobbes and Tigger for multiversal domination.




Phoenixx9

Jan 14, 2011, 11:49 am

bigvis497 wrote:

I'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic....

Stuart V wrote:

Playful, rather than sarcastic. But definitely not serious. I'd have hoped the movie casting info would have alerted anyone reading it that I was being tongue-in-cheek...

You heard right! It would discuss the infamous "Crisis of Infinite Heathcliffs" that merged the Star, comic strip and cartoon versions into Dark Heathcliff, who then battled the hastily assembled team of Garfield, Hobbes and Tigger for multiversal domination.

Oh I knew that. I was being playful as well. :kitty: That's why I said all of those Star Comics characters would fit in the "miscellaneous" character book! :giggle:

I still stick to my 4 predictions of what HBs are forthcoming. I believe those guesses are pretty much on target.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 19, 2011, 12:55 am


Looks like the most expected of the handbooks predicted in this thread (but desired nonetheless) is now official. Glad that I'll even be able to strike off the Nine Worlds entry. It won't knock any book off the list entirely but it will move things closer to that goal.




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 23, 2011, 07:09 pm


Marvel Superhero Contest of Champions

This refers to the text section at the back of the issues. Thank you to Captain Swift for provided the information on this important addition, as it’s arguably the first appearance of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe

#1
Acroyear (Micronaut; is he licensed?)
Aguila (F)
Blitzkrieg
Comet
Crimson Dynamo [Bukharin]
Devil (Micronaut; is he licensed?)

#2
Karkas
Microtron (Micronaut; is he licensed?)
Nanotron (Micronaut; is he licensed?)
Reject
Rom (arguably unavailable due to licensing)
Torpedo [Jones] (E)

#3
Biotron (Micronaut; is he licensed?)
Crimson Cavalier
Golden Girl [Sabuki]
Human Top [Mitchell]
Scarlet Scarab
Sir Steel and Silver Squire
Crimebuster
Red Raven [robot aspect of entry]
Thunderbolt (F)
American Eagle [Blue Eagle]
Astra (E)
Cap’n Hawk
Centurion
Charlie-27
Doctor Spectrum [Ledger]
Earthquake (E)
Firefall [Spaceknights]
Golden Archer
Hobgoblin [Shapeshifter] (E)
Horus
Hussar (E)
Impet
Javelin
Lady Lark
Manta (E)
Mentor [Imperial Guard] (E)
Mercurio
Nikki
Protector
Recorder
Smasher (E)
Starbolt (E)
Starshine [Spaceknight]
Tempest (E)
Tom Thumb
Whizzer [Stewart]
Combatra (Shogun Warrior; licensed?)
Domo
Futurist
Human Fly (no longer available due to licensing/real life person)
Iridia
Jann of the Jungle (no longer available; Electric Company character)
Karthon the Quester
Murdoch Adams
Raydeen (Shogun Warrior; licensed?)
Valkin




Stuart V

Jan 23, 2011, 07:28 pm

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Acroyear (Micronaut; is he licensed?)

Yes.

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Devil (Micronaut; is he licensed?)

No

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Microtron (Micronaut; is he licensed?)
Nanotron (Micronaut; is he licensed?)

Yes and no (he is, she isn't afaik).

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Rom (arguably unavailable due to licensing)

Definitely unavailable due to licensing.

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Biotron (Micronaut; is he licensed?)

Yes.

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Combatra (Shogun Warrior; licensed?)

Yes.

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Jann of the Jungle (no longer available; Electric Company character)

No, Marvel character.
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/j/jannatlas.htm

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

Raydeen (Shogun Warrior; licensed?)

Yes




captainswift

Jan 23, 2011, 08:08 pm


Also, you left out Danguard Ace (who is also unavailable due to licensing)




Andy E. Nystrom

Jan 23, 2011, 09:54 pm


Thank you for the clarifications, Stuart and Captain Swift. I know that there was some speculation of human Rom being available but I guess that was wishful thinking (I'm betting that at the time he appeared in Hulk in human form, his own comic may have been over, but the license hadn't expired).

I hadn't realized there were quite as many characters who had never gotten an official entry, however small, anywhere else. And unless Marvel regains certain licenses, this may well be it for certain characters.




Andy E. Nystrom

Mar 21, 2011, 08:48 pm


Madison Carter wrote:

This list is going to be a helluva lot shorter after the next 4 projects we're working on.

Okay, we know 3 of the 4 now: Thor, X-Men, Captain America. It will be interesting to see what the 4th one is. The above three are movie tie-ins; I think we can rule out a Green Lantern handbook. Avengers is still a possibility but if so it would probably mean three years in a row because more than likely there will be one next year. I hope it's an "out of left field" one, though I realize that they don't sell quite as well. They are just more fun to read.




Andy E. Nystrom

Apr 27, 2011, 06:26 pm


Deleted. I'm keeping the original starting posts for historical purposes but deleting the older updates because they serve no purpose and removing them makes the thread easier to wade through.




Eduardo M.

Apr 27, 2011, 07:13 pm

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

#30
Chord
Impala
Nobilus
Shalla Bal
Snowblind
X-Men’s Supporting Cast; also Warren K. Worthington, Jr.; Kathryn Worthington; Norton McCoy; Edna Andrews McCoy; Ted Roberts; Candance “Candy” Southern; William Robert Blake

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Candy Southern going to be in the upcoming X-Men handbook




Andy E. Nystrom

Apr 27, 2011, 07:36 pm


Eduardo M. wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Candy Southern going to be in the upcoming X-Men handbook

You're right. She should have a plus sign beside her name.




captainswift

Apr 28, 2011, 02:11 am


And pretty soon, one of the Handbook writers will come along to tell you the next few months will see even more of those names disappear.




Andy E. Nystrom

May 28, 2011, 01:21 pm


Deleted. I'm keeping the original starting posts for historical purposes but deleting the older updates because they serve no purpose and removing them makes the thread easier to wade through.

Andy E. Nystrom

Jun 29, 2011, 04:50 pm


Deleted. I'm keeping the original starting posts for historical purposes but deleting the older updates because they serve no purpose and removing them makes the thread easier to wade through.




Andy E. Nystrom

Aug 10, 2011, 11:55 pm


I've updated this thread as a result of the Vampires announcement and the publication of Fear Itself. Updates can now be found at the top of the thread (material from the original first post can now be found in the second post).




Andy E. Nystrom

Sep 30, 2011, 09:08 am


Now updated to remove entries from the FF book




Andy E. Nystrom

Oct 26, 2011, 02:25 pm

Updated to factor in the Vampires book. Of the two remaining sub-entries in the Deluxe Edition, I decided the Appendix paragraph didn't really count as a full entry, and Blade Doppleganger didn't even merit an Appendix entry; if someone resembling Blade in his 1970s garb visits Handbook writers I'd hide real fast with plenty of crosses and holy water.




Andy E. Nystrom

Dec 7, 2011, 06:05 pm

Updated due to the new Spider-Man trade, thus striking off Green Goblin/Hamilton, Prowler/Cat, and Sin-Eater




Andy E. Nystrom

Dec 21, 2011, 06:36 pm

Updated to the Defenders book. Definitely a lot leaner now, unsurprising since someone whose weight is incalculable (Cloud) has been stricken from the list.




Andy E. Nystrom

May 13, 2012, 11:02 am

Updated to Avengers Roll Call. Alas, no title made a clean sweep. If the Handbooks do resume after a breather and there's a Hulk book, Master Edition #10 stands an excellent chance since only X-Ray is left, and a Fantastic Four book could conceivably take out #28 (Aron, Possessor - Possessor having met two of the team)




Andy E. Nystrom

May 30, 2012, 07:20 pm


Surprisingly, the last softcover actually knocked something off this list. Deleted the Genealogy of the House of Agon, which appears in the Inhumans update.
 
 
Historical text from CxPulp:
 
Andy E. Nystrom
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Andy E. Nystrom
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Corrected the list to remove Hangman (Roland) and add in Hangman (Krueger).
 
Stuart V
12-17-2014, 01:49 PM
 
A few to come off the list as of the publication of the Avengers Now handbook today.
 
Andy E. Nystrom
12-17-2014, 04:28 PM

Stuart V wrote:

A few to come off the list as of the publication of the Avengers Now handbook today.

 
I've definitely been making a mental list of which threads would likely need updating. I'll be combing this thread and the Encyclopedia/Files sister thread carefully for deletions, plus of course updating the Master List. And I get to update the Chronology thread too!
 
 
Andy E. Nystrom
12-17-2014, 07:51 PM
 
Executioner: Accidentally omitted before. Point moot now.
Magnitron (Yong-Rogg): no prior entry, just headshots
Nikki: With her entry, only material left from first series #8 are the Alien Races and Appendix sections
Triton: updated
Wrecker: updated; he and Executioner were the only characters from Avengers Log needing striking this time
Silver Sable (Ernest): no prior entry
 
 
Andy E. Nystrom
10-28-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Lots of deletions due to the Secret Wars Guide:
Amphibian
Chief Examiner
Killraven’s Freemen (sub-entries remain)
Kurse
Tyler Stone
Thunderball
Volcana
Weirdworld
 


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