Historical text from CxPulp (not really Handbook related so I put it in the Comics section}
 
vanhornluke
12-26-2013, 06:10 PM
 
I was wondering if there was a list of all of the Marvel stories published outside the US and UK (not including fanfic stuff; I mean published by companies with a license from Marvel) that haven't been republished in the US. I've been able to figure out a few of these (although I can't read any of them, since they aren't available in the US and aren't in English ). Are there more besides those below?
 
Das Monster von Frankenstein (Germany): according to here <http://www.comicvine.com/das-monster-von-frankenstein-26/4000-329834/>, issue 26 contained an original Frankenstein story.
 
Edições Gep (X-Men published in Brazil): issues 1-8 and 13-14 contained original X-Men stories.
 
El Sargento Furia Y Sus Comandos (Sgt. Fury published in Mexico): according tohttp://www.bauldelcomic.com/portadas.php?edi=mex&cve=epsf&pag=1 here <http://www.bauldelcomic.com/portadas.php?edi=mex&cve=epsf&pag=1>, a staggering number of original stories were published: 86, 107, 109, 111-115, 117, 119, 121, 123-130, 136-142, 144-149, 153-157, 161-183, 186, 188-192, 194-195, 197-201, 204-213, 217-218, 220-224, 226-234, 236-239, 241-251, 253-258, 260-263, 265-268, 270, 272-274, 276-279, 281-283, 285-295, 298, 300-307, 310, 316, 320, 324, 327-329. That site doesn't contain any info for the following issues, so there might be original stories in them as well: 118, 202, 269, 271, 275, 280, 284, 296-297, 308-309, 311-315, 317-319, 321-323, 325-326. I guess Mexicans at that time really loved ol' Nick.
 
El Sorprendente Hombre Araña (Spider-Man published in Mexico): according to here <http://www.kingdomcomics.org/spiderman.html>, the following issues of this series contained original stories: 123-125, 128-129, 135-139, 145-159, 163-173, 176-185. I would love more information on these issues (or even translations) since apparently when the original stories began to stray from the US issues, retcons were introduced to keep them in line with the US continuity.
 
Frankenstein (published in Brazil; is the title "Capitão Mistério Apresenta"?): according to here <http://cmro.travis-starnes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=45515#p45515>, issues 9 through 11 contained original stories.
 
Superhelden Agenda '89-'90 (Netherlands): according to here <http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/spidermannl.htm>, this issue contained an original Spider-Man story.
 
According to here <http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/franknst.htm> (at the end of the comments section), there were also original Brazilian stories for the Living Mummy and Werewolf by Night. What issues were these in?
 
Also worth mentioning is Almanaque do o Globo Juvenil 1964, which published an original Human Torch story in which he meets Fawcett's Captain Marvel (read about it here <http://books.google.com/books?id=rFm0hok1c8sC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=Almanaque+do+o+Globo+Juvenil+1964&source=bl&ots=vndefn1piB&sig=icF5mx32ZnsMwNED1fLg4EZusYo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=39-8UqGcHofkoATFyYKwDQ&ved=0CGYQ6AEwDg#v=onepage&q=Almanaque%20do%20o%20Globo%20Juvenil%201964&f=false>), but technically it's been translated and republished in the US in Alter Ego vol. 3 #52-60.
 
Any others?
 
vanhornluke
02-14-2014, 03:40 PM
I'm not sure what's up with the strange font in the first post. Sorry about that.
 
I realized I forgot to include the original Silver Surfer story in the French series Nova #25-26 (link
<http://books.google.com/books?id=rFm0hok1c8sC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=french+silver+surfer+story+alter+ego&source=bl&ots=vne8ipUqdF&sig=mMIkY11OpQMbMv3P-vP2RKwwLI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7Kf-UrmDM4vioASygoCwAQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=french%20silver%20surfer%20story%20alter%20ego&f=false>). Have I missed any others?
 
I'm hoping that at least some of these stories can be incorporated into future handbooks and/or indexes.
 
A further question: should the Captain Marvel/Human Torch story be placed on Earth-Crossover, like the early DC/Marvel crossovers in the 70s and 80s?
 
Angelicknight
02-16-2014, 04:32 PM

vanhornluke wrote:

I'm not sure what's up with the strange font in the first post. Sorry about that.
 
A further question: should the Captain Marvel/Human Torch story be placed on Earth-Crossover, like the early DC/Marvel crossovers in the 70s and 80s?

 Earth-Crossover or possibly Earth-Baravelli http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/earth74425.htm where Fawcett/DC's Captain Marvel has interacted with Marvel heroes.
 
Here is 2 threads that might help you with your lists. http://www.chronologyproject.com/php...php?f=7&t=7868 <http://www.chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7868>
http://www.chronologyproject.com/php...php?f=7&t=4278 http://www.chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4278
 
 
vanhornluke
02-16-2014, 05:35 PM
Thanks! So I see the following should be added to the list:
 
Europa #0-4
Wild Angels
 
Does anyone know which of the manga issues were never reprinted in English?
 
Stuart V
02-17-2014, 12:57 AM
One you can read - 'Uomo Ragno: Il Segreto Del Vetro, or Spider-Man: The Secret of the Glass, which was published first in Italy and France, has been reprinted in English, but not in the US. Rather it is available in the British printing of Marvel Europa, a TPB that also includes the English translation of
Wolverine: Saudade and Captain America / Daredevil: Dead on Arrival. Those two other stories got US printings, but Secret of the Glass has not. http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix6/contegianus.htm
 
Superhelden Agenda '90-91 also includes a new story iirc.
 
There was a Hulk manga never reprinted outside Japan: http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/h/hulkmanga1.htm
 
There were also two distinct Spider-Man Manga and two distinct X-Men Manga - at least some of one of the Spider-Man mangas, Spider-Man J, has been translated, I think some of the other has also been translated, and the same is true of one of the X-Men manga. The other X-Men manga has no English version that I am aware of.
 
vanhornluke
02-17-2014, 10:08 AM
Thanks! I hope the above stories that are compatible with 616 continuity can be worked into future handbook/index entries, should there be any (I'm especially interested in the Brazilian X-Men and Mexican Spider-Man and Sgt. Fury stories), or at least that they'll show up at marvunapp and the Marvel Chronology Project.
 
 
vanhornluke
02-18-2014, 03:35 PM
According to here <http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men_(revista_em_quadrinhos)&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Edi%25C3%25A7%25C3%25B5es%2BGep%2522%2Bx-men%26espv%3D210%26es_sm%3D93%26biw%3D1777%26bih%3D887>, the X-Men also appeared in Edições GEP #19. A reprint or an original story? And as I pointed out in the omniverse thread, that link as well as here
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raio_Negro_(Gedeone_Malagola)&usg=ALkJrhh_5ZXIgDg7Eb5Dj6cPC3eqFN3Ukw">http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Edi%25C3%25A7%25C3%25B5es%2BGep%2522%2Bx-men%26espv%3D210%26es_sm%3D93%26biw%3D1777%26bih%3D887&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=pt-BR&u=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raio_Negro_(Gedeone_Malagola)&usg=ALkJrhh_5ZXIgDg7Eb5Dj6cPC3eqFN3Ukw say that the X-Men character Unus was an important character in the Brazilian comic Raio Negro (Black Lightning) #15.
 
Stuart V
02-19-2014, 02:42 AM
If you are counting the unofficial stories such as the Raio Negro one, then I guess I should mention Spider-Man teaming up with Superman, Batman and Nagraj (an Indian hero)
http://io9.com/5903184/remember-when...izard-in-india
http://io9.com/5903184/remember-when-spider+man-superman-and-batman-teamed-up-to-fight-an-alien-wizard-in-india
 
vanhornluke
02-19-2014, 10:33 AM
 
It's my understanding that these Brazilian comics fall into a sort of legal limbo, but aren't really bootleg or otherwise illegal (like that Indian comic). Rather, didn't these Brazilian publishers have licenses to print Marvel comics in Brazil (and similar comments apply to the original Mexican and German stories)? Perhaps they exceeded what Marvel intended by publishing new stories, but they're not just fanfic, right? As I recall, one of the creators of the Brazilian X-Men stories claimed that Marvel had given permission to publish new stories (although there's apparently no documentation to prove this one way or the other).
 
vanhornluke
04-01-2014, 01:37 PM
Wow, there are apparently a lot more original French comics featuring Marvel characters: link
<http://cmro.travis-starnes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=69066#p69066>.