Who Watches the Watchers - Forum for the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe & Similar Works 20 YEARS! 2004-2024

You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?



1/04/2020 8:45 pm  #1


OHOTMU: Mystic Arcana - The Book of Marvel Magic #1

Historical text from Comixfan:



bigvis497
Jun 13, 2007, 12:11 am

just curious, when is the bibliography gonna be posted for this? Some of the characters profiled seemed interesting, I'd like to know where to find some stories.

Andy E. Nystrom
Sep 10, 2010, 06:34 pm

List of changes in hardcovers. Another case where the original thread was lost. It definitely existed before the crash as I recall the Tarzan discussion stemming from the Abdul Alhazred entry. Does anyone have any fragments saved of it somewhere?

Abdul Alhazred
Hardcover Volume: 1
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Ashake
Hardcover Volume: 1
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: Known Relatives revised. History and Abilities/Accessories mostly revised/expanded
Graphic Changes: None

Bible John
Hardcover Volume: 1
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: New secondary illo

Black Crow
Hardcover Volume: 1
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Black Talon
Hardcover Volume: 1
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: New captioned secondary illo; B&W illos now colourized

Cadaver
Hardcover Volume: 2
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: 1st History paragraph expanded/merged with 2nd. Abilities/Accessories slightly expanded.
Graphic Changes: None

Chondu the Mystic
Hardcover Volume: 2
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: One secondary illo now captioned

Cognoscneti
Hardcover Volume: 2
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Creators
Hardcover Volume: 2
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Dark Rider
Hardcover Volume: 3
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Darklore
Hardcover Volume: 3
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Diabolique
Hardcover Volume: 3
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Dream Weaver
Hardcover Volume: 3
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: New final History paragraph added.
Graphic Changes: None

Dredmund the Druid
Hardcover Volume: 3
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: 1st 5 History paragraphs merged; final 3 paragraphs merged. Intelligence on Power Grid revised
Graphic Changes: New captioned secondary illo of Starwolf

Eye Killers
Hardcover Volume: 4
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: One secondary illo no longer cropped, now new main illo; old main illo now secondary illo (image reversed); onomatopoeia removed from other secondary illo.

Vera Gemini
Hardcover Volume: 4
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: History slightly revised
Graphic Changes: Secondary illo less cropped

Ghost Dancer
Hardcover Volume: 4
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Agatha Harkness
Hardcover Volume: 5
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: new captioned secondary illo

Jinx
Hardcover Volume: 6
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Llan
Hardcover Volume: 6
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Ian McNee
Hardcover Volume: 7
Page Count: Increased from 1 to 2
Text Changes: Occupation revised, Known Relatives tweaked. History and Abilities/Accessories mostly revised/greatly expanded
Graphic Changes: New main illo (old one now secondary); 2 new secondary illos

Mechamage
Hardcover Volume: 7
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: illo now partly cropped

Modred the Mystic
Hardcover Volume: 7
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: Occupation, Citizenship, Place of Birth, Education revised. Old History text somewhat revised, then new final paragraph.
Graphic Changes: cloak in main illo a bit less cropped

Astrid Mordo
Hardcover Volume: 7
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Mordo’s Minions
Hardcover Volume: 1
Now Listed As: Baron Mordo’s Minions
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Additional Text/Graphic Changes: None

Mordred the Evil
Hardcover Volume: 7
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: New half-sentence added to end of 5th History paragraph
Graphic Changes: None

Necrodamus
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: Secondary illo tilted

Necromancer
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: New sentence added to end of final History paragraph
Graphic Changes: None

Octessence
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Increased from 1 to 2
Text Changes: History somewhat revised/expanded
Graphic Changes: 15 new captioned secondary illos

Pandemonia
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Papa Shorty
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Pestilence
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: main illo now partly cropped, secondary illo now longer obscured by main illo

Pro-Rata
Hardcover Volume: 9
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: Citizenship, Place of Birth revised. Speed on Power Grid revised.
Graphic Changes: secondary illos now colourized

Rintrah
Hardcover Volume: 9
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: Three History paragraphs merged, Hobgoblin’s alter ego added. Note added
Graphic Changes: None

Salem’s Seven
Hardcover Volume: 10
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: New sentence added to end of final History paragraph
Graphic Changes: One secondary illo recoloured for clarity

Shadowqueen
Hardcover Volume: 10
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Shazana
Hardcover Volume: 10
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Six-Fingered Hand
Hardcover Volume: 10
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: Some recolouring of illos (resulting in some smoke removal from the 1st page lower left illo); some cropping revisions. Sign removed from Avarrish et al illo. Background removed from Man-Thing illo. Dialogue removed from 2nd page bottom right illo

Sorrow
Hardcover Volume: 10
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Swords of Sorcerous Might: 1-page entry not carried over

Taboo
Hardcover Volume: 11
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: Final sentence in 1st History paragraph replaced with new expanded text
Graphic Changes: secondary illo now slightly obscured by main illo

Talisman
Hardcover Volume: 11
Page Count: Unchanged at 2
Text Changes: Group Affiliation revised. History somewhat revised, including one paragraph break changing locations and new expanded text at end
Graphic Changes: Main illo reversed One secondary illo less cropped

Talismans of Mystic Power: 1-page entry not carried over

Tomes of Eldrich Knowledge: 1-page entry not carried over

Sir Warren Traveler
Hardcover Volume: 12
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: New secondary illo; old one removed

Tribe of the Moon
Hardcover Volume: 12
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: Some recolouring for clarity. 1st 3 headshots cropped. Final 5 captions now embedded in the illos instead of underneath.

Vishanti
Hardcover Volume: 12
Page Count: Increased from 2 to 3
Text Changes: History completely rewritten/expanded
Graphic Changes: Dialogue from Agamotto/Oshtur/Hoggoth illo removed. Agamotto illo now with the two Agamotto – Other Forms illos (no longer captioned separately), now partly covered the to illo. 6 new captioned secondary illos (1 used to be in the Swords entry and 4 used to be in the Talismans entry)

War of the Seven Spheres
Hardcover Volume: 13
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: Location removed. First Mentioned category recaptioned Key Chronicle. History greatly revised especially in middle
Graphic Changes: Old illo removed. 3 new captioned illos, including one also used in the Vishanti entry

Witch Woman
Hardcover Volume: 13
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: Known Relatives, Group Affiliation revised. Final History sentence tweaked, then new sentence added after.
Graphic Changes: None

Witches
Hardcover Volume: 13
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: 1st History paragraph slightly revised; final paragraph replaced with new one
Graphic Changes: Main illo less cropped.

Zhred-Na
Hardcover Volume: 14
Page Count: Unchanged at 1
Text Changes: Citizenship, Education revised. History mostly revised
Graphic Changes: Cropping revised in main illo

Divinity Drake
Hardcover Volume: 3
Page Count: Unchanged at ½
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Earthmover
Hardcover Volume: 4
Page Count: Unchanged at ½
Text Changes: None
Graphic Changes: Feet no longer cropped out of illo

Rama Kaliph
Hardcover Volume: 6
Page Count: Unchanged at ½
Text Changes: History slightly revised
Graphic Changes: None

M’Gumbu
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Unchanged at ½
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Nagala
Hardcover Volume: 8
Page Count: Increased from ½ to 1
Text Changes: Vital Statistics revised. History mostly revised/expanded. Hair revised. Final sentence removed from Abilities/Accessories. Power Numbers now Power Grid.
Graphic Changes: None

Sister Nil
Hardcover Volume: 11
Page Count: Unchanged at ½
Text/Graphic Changes: None

Appendix: Swords, Talismans, Tomes: 2-page entry not carried over

bigvis497
Sep 10, 2010, 07:17 pm

I really, really wish that the swords, tomes and talismans entries were carried over to the HC's, as they were "full" entries here.

Andy E. Nystrom
Sep 10, 2010, 08:15 pm

First off this is really strange: I looked everywhere for the old thread earlier, even searched this forum specifically for albums with Mystic in the title and couldn't find the old thread. Now looking for another thread I found the old one. Could someone merge these? Thx and sorry about that.

bigvis497 wrote:

I really, really wish that the swords, tomes and talismans entries were carried over to the HC's, as they were "full" entries here.

I agree. In particular I was looking forward to a Swords entry with the swords separated out rather than crossed together. While I understand the argument against a yearbook per se, it would be nice to see one more hardcover covering all the missed entries from the issues that otherwise made the cut and perhaps some of the older Files books and/or Ultimate stuff. After a bit more recuperation time from the 14 volume run of course.

Stuart V
Sep 11, 2010, 04:33 am

Andy E. Nystrom wrote:

First off this is really strange: I looked everywhere for the old thread earlier, even searched this forum specifically for albums with Mystic in the title and couldn't find the old thread. Now looking for another thread I found the old one. Could someone merge these? Thx and sorry about that.

If you can post a link to it so I can find the other thread, I'll merge them.

Roger Ott
Sep 11, 2010, 11:47 am

bigvis497 wrote:

I really, really wish that the swords, tomes and talismans entries were carried over to the HC's, as they were "full" entries here.

I hear ya. Was hoping they'd be expanded a bit, too, and with larger images.

Phoenixx9
Sep 12, 2010, 03:01 pm

I also agree most definitely!!

Two of the swords I am most interested in are: Ebony Blade and Dragonfang.

In the recent Valkyrie entry, there was something mentioned how Dragonfang became harder/sharper upon spilt blood. Where did this info come from? I am not aware of that statement, and in fact, it almost sounds like it belongs to the Ebony Blade. This info was not mentioned when Doc Strange gave Val the sword nor any time thereafter or in any comic I own. So I am naturally puzzled by that sentence. I was hoping an entry on the Swords of Sorceress Might would clarify things. I really don't want a blood curse on Dragonfang! Bad enough there is one on the Ebony Blade.

captainswift
Sep 12, 2010, 10:54 pm

While I am also disappointed those entries were left out of the hardbacks, having looked at Phoenixx's post, most everything on those lists is pretty much deserving of its own entry (at least in the main entries. The ones in the corresponding appendices not so much.)

Andy E. Nystrom
Sep 16, 2010, 01:50 pm

Stuart V wrote:

If you can post a link to it so I can find the other thread, I'll merge them.

Thank you, Stuart. Here it is:
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/...ad.php?t=41380

Only one post survived the crash it seems but one is better than none.

Andy E. Nystrom
Feb 15, 2012, 04:09 pm

Going through this for the Sightings thread and I noticed that the Orb of Agamotto has two entries, in the Talisman 1-pager and in the Appendix. The former lists its first appearance as Strange Tales#128 1965, the latter says #118 1965. Looking through my copy of Essential Doctor Strange v1, while not named in either, it appears that the latter is correct.


My photostream (over 7.5 million photos!)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24917258@N05/
 

Board footera

 

Powered by Boardhost. Create a Free Forum


*****HAPPY TWENTIETH ANNIVERSARY EVERYBODY!!! 2004-2024*****