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12/30/2020 5:58 am  #61


Re: The Official Handbooks General Q&A Thread

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12/30/2020 7:17 am  #62


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Without wanting to get into the ins and outs of that discussion you've quoted, I will note that 
"Omniverses are part of the larger Megaverse" is definitely wrong. You can't have plural Omniverses or have them be part of something bigger, because the definition is that everything is in the Omniverse. If a character claims to have left the Omniverse, they are mistaken/misspeaking - they can only have left the "KNOWN" Omniverse and thus expanded the boundaries of what we knew to be part of the Omniverse.

 

12/30/2020 9:29 am  #63


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Yeah, omniverses being part of a greater megaverse was definitely a new one to me.

 

12/30/2020 10:42 am  #64


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That one jumped out at me as well.

One small thing I will say in terms of multiverse/megaverse confusion is the line sometimes gets blurred, much more so than with the omniverse. In the specific case of the New Universe, my suspicion is that it's actually part of the multiverse despite what's been said in the past, and despite time passing differently there. Notably, the White Event affecting different worlds strikes me as something that would be a multiversal phenomenon rather than a megaversal phenomenon. It might be that just as Pluto was believed at one time to be a planet and now it's not, perhaps, the White Event is an indicator that the New Universe was misclassified. Pure speculation on my part, but it does suggest that even if the New Universe is still outside the Marvel multiverse it nevertheless has closer ties to other worlds in the Marvel multiverse than was previously believed.


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1/04/2021 8:20 pm  #65


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Here's a question that applies to both Marvel and DC. I've heard it claimed that Jack Kirby's New Gods saga at DC was a recycled premise from an arc he planned but never got to do in Thor, in which Asgard it destroyed in Ragnarok and then reborn as a sci-fi rather than mystical society. Furthermore, it's claimed that it's still somewhat implied that the DC "Old Gods" are the Marvel Asgardians, as one of Kirby's many subtle and not-so-subtle "up yours" moves to his previous employer.

Is any of this true? And if so, how much?

 

1/05/2021 6:31 am  #66


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Pinball_Lizard wrote:

Here's a question that applies to both Marvel and DC. I've heard it claimed that Jack Kirby's New Gods saga at DC was a recycled premise from an arc he planned but never got to do in Thor, in which Asgard it destroyed in Ragnarok and then reborn as a sci-fi rather than mystical society. Furthermore, it's claimed that it's still somewhat implied that the DC "Old Gods" are the Marvel Asgardians, as one of Kirby's many subtle and not-so-subtle "up yours" moves to his previous employer.

Is any of this true? And if so, how much?

More or less true. I'd lay out the details, but someone else already did a good job of that.
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